From: James A Sutherland <jas88@cam.ac.uk>
To: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
Cc: Erik Gustavsson <cyrano@algonet.se>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Swap
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:16:04 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E16670X-0006Xt-00@puce.csi.cam.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3BF82443.5D3E2E11@starband.net> <E165tpy-0002Dm-00@mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk> <m1ofly6tvb.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>
In-Reply-To: <m1ofly6tvb.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>
On Tuesday 20 November 2001 2:47 am, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> James A Sutherland <jas88@cam.ac.uk> writes:
> > On Monday 19 November 2001 6:12 pm, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > > Erik Gustavsson <cyrano@algonet.se> writes:
> > > > I agree... After a while it always seems that 80% or more of my RAM
> > > > is used for cache and buffers while my open, but not currently used
> > > > apps get pushed onto disk. Then when I decide to switch to that
> > > > mozilla window of emacs session I have to wait for it to be loaded
> > > > from disk again. Also considering the kind of disk activity this box
> > > > has, the data in the cache is mostly the last few hour's MP3's, in
> > > > other words utterly useless as that data will not be used again. I'd
> > > > rather my apps stayed in RAM...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is there a way to limit the size of the cache?
> > >
> > > Reasonable. It looks like the use once heuristics are failing for your
> > > mp3 files. Find out why that is happening and they should push the
> > > rest of your system into swap.
> >
> > Getting clobbered by the mp3 player accessing the ID3 tag? That way, at
> > least part of the file is used twice, so use-ONCE won't matter...
>
> For that page perhaps. But that is only 4K. That doesn't explain the rest
> of it. use-once is per page.
True - the ID3 can be in several different places, so that could account for
a couple of pages, but mp3 players certainly DON'T read the whole file in
before playing...
Does the mp3 player in question try to pre-read the pages using one
process/thread, before the actual player thread reaches them? How far apart
would two accesses need to be to disable read-once?
James.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-11-20 9:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-11-18 21:12 Swap war
2001-11-18 21:25 ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-18 21:28 ` Swap war
2001-11-18 21:42 ` Swap François Cami
2001-11-18 21:45 ` Swap war
2001-11-18 23:03 ` Swap Erik Gustavsson
2001-11-19 18:12 ` Swap Eric W. Biederman
2001-11-19 18:43 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 2:49 ` Swap Eric W. Biederman
2001-11-20 3:33 ` Swap Ryan Cumming
2001-11-20 11:43 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 11:41 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-19 19:12 ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-20 2:47 ` Swap Eric W. Biederman
2001-11-20 9:16 ` James A Sutherland [this message]
2001-11-18 22:05 ` Swap J.A. Magallon
2001-11-18 22:21 ` Swap François Cami
2001-11-18 22:36 ` Swap Charles Marslett
2001-11-18 22:54 ` Swap J.A. Magallon
2001-11-18 23:36 ` Swap Bernd Eckenfels
[not found] <fa.inl6g6v.1mmbp4@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.heevhav.sjs8an@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-18 22:15 ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-18 22:43 ` Swap François Cami
2001-11-19 9:18 ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-19 10:51 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-19 13:33 ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-19 13:46 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-19 16:58 ` Swap Rik van Riel
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0111191458150.1491-100000@duckman.distro.conecti va>
2001-11-19 21:13 ` Swap Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-19 21:17 ` Swap Rik van Riel
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0111191917000.1491-100000@duckman.distro.conecti va>
2001-11-19 21:52 ` Swap Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-19 16:36 ` Swap Jesse Pollard
2001-11-20 14:51 ` Swap J.A. Magallon
2001-11-20 16:01 ` Swap Wolfgang Rohdewald
2001-11-20 16:06 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 16:12 ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-20 16:20 ` Swap Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-20 17:14 ` Swap Christopher Friesen
2001-11-20 17:40 ` Swap Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-20 18:14 ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-21 10:17 ` Swap Helge Hafting
2001-11-21 11:17 ` Swap Alan Cox
2001-11-20 23:20 ` Swap Luigi Genoni
2001-11-21 16:44 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 17:58 ` Swap Wolfgang Rohdewald
2001-11-20 21:05 ` Swap Steffen Persvold
2001-11-20 21:18 ` Swap Mike Fedyk
2001-11-20 21:33 ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-20 21:44 ` Swap Mike Fedyk
2001-11-20 22:00 ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-21 16:53 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 21:43 ` Swap Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-20 21:19 ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-21 16:48 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 20:58 ` Swap Mike Fedyk
2001-11-19 10:03 ` Swap Tim Connors
2001-11-19 10:16 ` Swap Dan Maas
[not found] <fa.kmf405v.j74f21@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.ns5ugpv.q02sbg@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-20 21:26 ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-20 22:05 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 22:11 ` Swap David S. Miller
2001-11-20 22:19 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 22:34 ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-20 23:05 ` Swap Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <fa.jc73ejv.1s6e80t@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-21 1:45 ` Swap Håvard Kvålen
2001-11-21 4:23 ` Swap Andreas Dilger
2001-11-20 22:23 ` Swap Andrew Morton
2001-11-20 23:01 ` Swap David S. Miller
2001-11-20 23:35 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 23:40 ` Swap David S. Miller
2001-11-21 0:19 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-21 0:21 ` Swap David S. Miller
[not found] <fa.kb6ct7v.pgku0d@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.k8qdvcv.184ak2l@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-20 22:46 ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-20 23:17 ` Swap Trond Myklebust
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