From: "David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com>
To: "Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: "Pascal Schmidt" <der.eremit@email.de>,
"Andre Hedrick" <andre@linux-ide.org>,
"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 15:30:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <MDEHLPKNGKAHNMBLJOLKMEGJGIAA.davids@webmaster.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1063490941.9402.14.camel@dhcp23.swansea.linux.org.uk>
> On Sad, 2003-09-13 at 22:19, David Schwartz wrote:
> > > If people put GPL_ONLY symbol exports in their code, that's their call
> > > to make, is it not? It's their code and they're free to say
> > > "well, this
> > > is my code, and if you use this symbol, I consider your stuff to be a
> > > derived work". Once again it's up to the lawyers to decide whether
> > > this has legal value or not.
> > If it has legal value, then it's an additional restriction.
> If it has legal value in showing the work is derivative thats not an
> additional restriction.
If the work would not have been restricted without it and is restricted
with it and you can't remove it, it's an additional restriction. If not,
what would an additional restriction be?
> Its merely showing the intent of the author.
The intent of the author has no bearing on whether or not a work is
derived.
> If
> someone creates a work and its found to be derivative and they didnt
> make it GPL compatible they get sued, thats also not an additional
> restriction its what the GPL says anyway.
Show me where the GPL says you have to GPL derived works that you don't
distribute. That restriction is found nowhere in the GPL and if you
attempted to impose such a restriction, it would be an additional one.
> That is the whole point of EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL, it doesn't enforce
> anything and Linus was absolutely specific it should not do the
> enforcing. Its a hint and a support filter.
If it doesn't enforce anything and isn't a license restriction, then it's
perfectly legal and kosher to remove it.
DS
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-09-13 22:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <uess.1w0.9@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <ujV3.1uP.13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-10 21:52 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-10 22:26 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-10 22:34 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-11 1:35 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-11 13:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-11 18:39 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-11 18:45 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-13 17:52 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 23:54 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-13 17:34 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 10:55 ` Sean Estabrooks
2003-09-11 14:36 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 17:42 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-12 20:58 ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-12 21:47 ` Matt D. Robinson
2003-09-12 22:31 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-12 23:26 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 0:29 ` Matt D. Robinson
2003-09-13 17:42 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 5:38 ` jw schultz
2003-09-13 17:44 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 18:19 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 20:01 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 23:17 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 1:57 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14 2:40 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 3:42 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14 3:36 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 4:37 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14 4:58 ` freed_symbols [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]] Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 5:39 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14 5:32 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 6:41 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14 6:50 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 7:10 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 8:08 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-15 0:17 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-09-15 5:57 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-15 6:14 ` Nick Piggin
2003-10-05 0:52 ` Rob Landley
2003-10-05 1:05 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 2:34 ` viro
2003-10-05 3:45 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 10:24 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 13:56 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 14:14 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 10:23 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 11:32 ` David Lang
2003-10-05 13:37 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 6:40 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 7:39 ` viro
2003-10-05 18:27 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 19:21 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 20:03 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 20:14 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 20:34 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 20:43 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-06 1:22 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-06 1:37 ` David Lang
2003-10-06 1:51 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 19:32 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-10-05 19:47 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 20:38 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 20:46 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 19:54 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-09-14 8:45 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-09-15 0:16 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-09-15 0:27 ` Justin Cormack
2003-09-14 21:40 ` People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] David Schwartz
2003-09-15 8:06 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-14 2:51 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 3:05 ` GPL == DMCA [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]] Andre Hedrick
2003-10-29 22:42 ` People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] David Schwartz
2003-10-29 23:11 ` David S. Miller
2003-10-30 0:10 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-11 1:39 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 17:11 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 21:11 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-13 21:19 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 21:12 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 22:09 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 22:30 ` David Schwartz [this message]
2003-09-14 1:16 ` Andrew Pimlott
2003-09-15 15:26 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-09-13 23:00 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-12 21:04 ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-12 21:17 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-15 18:24 ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-15 20:17 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 18:09 ` Andre Hedrick
[not found] <fa.fq1hscm.1b7ai1k@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.n3hqp6f.1rkg0ob@ifi.uio.no>
2003-09-14 4:39 ` walt
[not found] <vpYm.1Bn.7@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <vq84.1P5.7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-13 21:43 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-13 9:08 Nicolas Mailhot
2003-09-13 9:49 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 14:37 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2003-09-13 17:16 ` Alan Cox
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-04 3:01 Driver Model David Schwartz
2003-09-10 14:59 ` People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] Timothy Miller
2003-09-10 20:34 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-12 19:55 ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-13 14:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-09-13 17:58 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-10 23:35 ` James Clark
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