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From: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
To: Wietse Venema <wietse@porcupine.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-net@vger.kernel.org>,
	<netdev@oss.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:44:40 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0109061643030.14727-100000@shell.cyberus.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010906204104.A3FBDBC06C@spike.porcupine.org>



Sigh.
Which part dont you understand?

Youve been told about 1000 times already, but let me shout:

YOU CAN GET THE INFORAMTION YOU WANT IF YOU USE NETLINK.

Cheers,
jamal



On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Wietse Venema wrote:

> Please stop that BSD versus Linux drivel. Either make a constructive
> contribution or be silent.
>
> I don't care what API is "superior", as long as it provides me with
> the information that I want.
>
> 	Wietse
>
> jamal:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Wietse Venema wrote:
> >
> > > Alan Cox:
> > > > > Soldiers are marching down the street. The mother of one of those
> > > > > soldiers is ever so proud.  All the other guys are marching out of
> > > > > step.  Her son is the only one who does it right.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's what it looks like for a person who writes Internet software
> > > > > that aims to work on a wide variety of platforms.
> > > >
> > > > I think you have the metaphor wrong. The older API is a bit like the
> > > > cavalry charging into battle at the start of world war one. It may have been
> > > > how everyone did it but they guys with the "newfangled, really not how it
> > > > should be done, definitely not cricket"  machine guns got the last laugh
> > >
> > > Keep your superiority complex out of my mailbox, thank you.
> > >
> >
> > Wietse,
> >
> > netlink, as a few people have pointed to you is the 'proper' way to do
> > things. Sure, the BSDs did it the way you love it, but linux is a
> > different operating system (cut the "if its not Scottish its crap
> > mentality"). Netlink does improve on "the way its always been done for
> > the last 80 years". Infact netlink has already been approved to be (at
> > least informational) RFC. Look at a slightly dated draft at:
> > http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-salim-netlink-jhshk-00.txt
> > Maybe you should preach to the BSDs about netlink?
> >
> > cheers,
> > jamal
> >
> > PS:- If you want help on writting netlink based code to achieve what you
> > are trying to do, just yell. Look at the source for the ip utility which
> > is within the iproute2 package.
> >
> >
>


  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-06 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20010906155920.B29583@maggie.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de>
     [not found] ` <200109061554.TAA11031@ms2.inr.ac.ru>
2001-09-06 17:48   ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-06 18:06     ` kuznet
2001-09-06 18:18       ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 18:38         ` kuznet
2001-09-06 19:45         ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 19:59           ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 20:20             ` jamal
2001-09-06 20:41               ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 20:44                 ` jamal [this message]
2001-09-06 21:20                   ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-07  6:11                     ` Patrick Schaaf
2001-09-07  9:24                     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-09-07 11:13                       ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-08 13:25                     ` Kai Henningsen
2001-09-06 20:22             ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 20:38               ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-10 16:11             ` Dennis
2001-09-06 20:13           ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-10  8:05             ` David Weinehall
2001-09-10 12:26               ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-10 12:53                 ` David Weinehall
2001-09-10 13:52                   ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-10 15:18                   ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-10 15:12               ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-10 19:36               ` kuznet
2001-09-10 20:14                 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-11 15:22                   ` kuznet
2001-09-11 16:39                     ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-10 20:40                 ` Andi Kleen
2001-09-10 21:19                   ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-11 11:26                   ` Matthias Andree

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