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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Michael Hohnbaum <hohnbaum@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<colpatch@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 01:57:48 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206190145580.28144-100000@e2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1024443480.1514.33.camel@w-hbaum>


On 18 Jun 2002, Michael Hohnbaum wrote:

> A bit mask is a very good choice for the sched_setaffinity()
> interface.  [...]

thanks :)

> [...] I would suggest an additional argument be added
> which would indicate the resource that the process is to be
> affined to.  That way this interface could be used for binding
> processes to cpus, memory nodes, perhaps NUMA nodes, and, 
> as discussed recently in another thread, other processes.
> Personally, I see NUMA nodes as an overkill, if a process
> can be bound to cpus and memory nodes.

are you sure we want one generic, process-based affinity interface?

i think the affinity to certain memory regions might need to be more
finegrained than this. Eg. it could be useful to define a per-file
(per-inode) 'backing store memory node' that the file is affine to. This
will eg. cause the pagecache to be allocated in the memory node.
Process-based affinity does not describe this in a natural way. Another
example, memory maps: we might want to have a certain memory map (vma)  
allocated in a given memory node, independently of where the process that
is faulting a given pages resides.

and it might certainly make sense to have some sort of 'default memory
affinity' for a process as well, but this should be a different syscall -
it really does a much different thing than CPU affinity. The CPU resource
is 'used' only temporarily with little footprint, while memory usage is
often for a very long timespan, and the affinity strategies differ
greatly. Also, memory as a resource is much more complex than CPU, eg. it
must handle things like over-allocation, fallback to 'nearby' nodes if a
node is full, etc.

so i'd suggest to actually create a good memory-affinity syscall interface
instead of trying to generalize it into the simple, robust, finite
CPU-affinity syscalls.

	Ingo


  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-18 23:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-18 23:38 Michael Hohnbaum
2002-06-18 23:57 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2002-06-19  0:08   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-06-19  1:00   ` Matthew Dobson
2002-06-19 23:48   ` Michael Hohnbaum
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-24 21:28 Paul McKenney
2002-06-21 12:59 Jesse Pollard
2002-06-21  7:31 Martin Knoblauch
2002-06-20 23:48 Miles Lane
     [not found] <E17KSLb-0007Dj-00@wagner.rustcorp.com.au>
2002-06-19  0:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 15:23   ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-19 16:28     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 20:57       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 17:18 James Simmons
2002-06-18 17:46 ` Robert Love
2002-06-18 18:51   ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 18:43     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-18 18:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 18:59       ` Robert Love
2002-06-18 20:05       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:05         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 20:31           ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 21:12               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-06-18 21:08                 ` Cort Dougan
2002-06-18 21:47                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 12:29                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-19 17:27                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20  3:57                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-20  5:24                           ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-20  7:26                             ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-20 14:54                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-20 16:30                           ` Cort Dougan
2002-06-20 17:15                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-21  6:15                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-21 17:50                                 ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-21 17:55                                   ` Robert Love
2002-06-22 18:25                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-22 19:26                                     ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-22 22:25                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-22 23:10                                         ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-23  6:34                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-06-23 22:56                                       ` Kai Henningsen
2002-06-20 17:16                             ` RW Hawkins
2002-06-20 17:23                               ` Cort Dougan
2002-06-20 20:40                             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 20:53                               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 21:27                                 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 21:37                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 21:59                                     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 22:18                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 22:41                                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-21  0:09                                           ` Allen Campbell
2002-06-21  7:43                                       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-21 21:02                                       ` Rob Landley
2002-06-21 20:38                                   ` Rob Landley
2002-06-20 21:13                               ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-06-21 19:53                               ` Rob Landley
2002-06-21  5:34                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-19 10:21                   ` Padraig Brady
2002-06-18 21:45                 ` Bill Huey
2002-06-18 20:55             ` Robert Love
2002-06-19 13:31               ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 19:29     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-06-18 19:19       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-18 19:49         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-06-18 19:27           ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-18 20:13       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 22:03         ` Ingo Molnar

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