From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Michael Hohnbaum <hohnbaum@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<colpatch@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 01:57:48 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206190145580.28144-100000@e2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1024443480.1514.33.camel@w-hbaum>
On 18 Jun 2002, Michael Hohnbaum wrote:
> A bit mask is a very good choice for the sched_setaffinity()
> interface. [...]
thanks :)
> [...] I would suggest an additional argument be added
> which would indicate the resource that the process is to be
> affined to. That way this interface could be used for binding
> processes to cpus, memory nodes, perhaps NUMA nodes, and,
> as discussed recently in another thread, other processes.
> Personally, I see NUMA nodes as an overkill, if a process
> can be bound to cpus and memory nodes.
are you sure we want one generic, process-based affinity interface?
i think the affinity to certain memory regions might need to be more
finegrained than this. Eg. it could be useful to define a per-file
(per-inode) 'backing store memory node' that the file is affine to. This
will eg. cause the pagecache to be allocated in the memory node.
Process-based affinity does not describe this in a natural way. Another
example, memory maps: we might want to have a certain memory map (vma)
allocated in a given memory node, independently of where the process that
is faulting a given pages resides.
and it might certainly make sense to have some sort of 'default memory
affinity' for a process as well, but this should be a different syscall -
it really does a much different thing than CPU affinity. The CPU resource
is 'used' only temporarily with little footprint, while memory usage is
often for a very long timespan, and the affinity strategies differ
greatly. Also, memory as a resource is much more complex than CPU, eg. it
must handle things like over-allocation, fallback to 'nearby' nodes if a
node is full, etc.
so i'd suggest to actually create a good memory-affinity syscall interface
instead of trying to generalize it into the simple, robust, finite
CPU-affinity syscalls.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-06-18 23:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-18 23:38 Michael Hohnbaum
2002-06-18 23:57 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2002-06-19 0:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-06-19 1:00 ` Matthew Dobson
2002-06-19 23:48 ` Michael Hohnbaum
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2002-06-24 21:28 Paul McKenney
2002-06-21 12:59 Jesse Pollard
2002-06-21 7:31 Martin Knoblauch
2002-06-20 23:48 Miles Lane
[not found] <E17KSLb-0007Dj-00@wagner.rustcorp.com.au>
2002-06-19 0:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 15:23 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-19 16:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 20:57 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 17:18 James Simmons
2002-06-18 17:46 ` Robert Love
2002-06-18 18:51 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 18:43 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-18 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 18:59 ` Robert Love
2002-06-18 20:05 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 20:31 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 21:12 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-06-18 21:08 ` Cort Dougan
2002-06-18 21:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 12:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-19 17:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 3:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-20 5:24 ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-20 7:26 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-20 14:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-20 16:30 ` Cort Dougan
2002-06-20 17:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-21 6:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-21 17:50 ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-21 17:55 ` Robert Love
2002-06-22 18:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-22 19:26 ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-22 22:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-22 23:10 ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-23 6:34 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-06-23 22:56 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-06-20 17:16 ` RW Hawkins
2002-06-20 17:23 ` Cort Dougan
2002-06-20 20:40 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 20:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 21:27 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 21:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 21:59 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 22:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 22:41 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-21 0:09 ` Allen Campbell
2002-06-21 7:43 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-21 21:02 ` Rob Landley
2002-06-21 20:38 ` Rob Landley
2002-06-20 21:13 ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-06-21 19:53 ` Rob Landley
2002-06-21 5:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-19 10:21 ` Padraig Brady
2002-06-18 21:45 ` Bill Huey
2002-06-18 20:55 ` Robert Love
2002-06-19 13:31 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 19:29 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-06-18 19:19 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-18 19:49 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-06-18 19:27 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-18 20:13 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 22:03 ` Ingo Molnar
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