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From: Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken
Date: 18 Jun 2002 13:55:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1024433739.922.236.camel@sinai> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E17KPdj-0004EP-00@wagner.rustcorp.com.au>

On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 13:31, Rusty Russell wrote:

> No, you have accepted a non-portable userspace interface and put it in
> generic code.  THAT is idiotic.
> 
> So any program that doesn't use the following is broken:

On top of what Linus replied, there is the issue that if your task does
not know how many CPUs can be in the system then setting its affinity is
worthless in 90% of the cases.

I.e., everyone today can write code like

	sched_setaffinity(0, sizeof(unsigned long), &mask)

but let's say this code is executed on a system with a different number
of bits in the CPU mask.  What do you do with the new/old bits?  Ignore
them?  Set new ones to zero?  To 1?

Summarily, setting CPU affinity is something that is naturally low-level
enough it only makes sense when you know what you are setting and not
setting.  While a mask of -1 may always make sense, random bitmaps
(think RT stuff here) are explicit for the number of CPUs given.

The interface is designed to make this easy clean as possible - i.e.,
the size check, etc.

	Robert Love


  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-06-18 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-18 17:18 James Simmons
2002-06-18 17:46 ` Robert Love
2002-06-18 18:51   ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 18:43     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-18 18:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 18:59       ` Robert Love
2002-06-18 20:05       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:05         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 20:31           ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 21:12               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-06-18 21:08                 ` Cort Dougan
2002-06-18 21:47                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 12:29                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-19 17:27                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20  3:57                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-20  5:24                           ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-20  7:26                             ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-20 14:54                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-20 15:41                             ` McVoy's Clusters (was Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken) Sandy Harris
2002-06-20 17:10                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-06-20 20:42                                 ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-06-21  5:16                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-22 14:14                               ` Kai Henningsen
2002-06-20 16:30                           ` latest linus-2.5 BK broken Cort Dougan
2002-06-20 17:15                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-21  6:15                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-21 17:50                                 ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-21 17:55                                   ` Robert Love
2002-06-21 18:09                                   ` Linux, the microkernel (was Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken) Jeff Garzik
2002-06-21 18:46                                     ` Cort Dougan
2002-06-21 20:25                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-22  1:07                                         ` Horst von Brand
2002-06-22  1:23                                           ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-22 12:41                                             ` Roman Zippel
2002-06-23 15:15                                             ` Sandy Harris
2002-06-23 17:29                                               ` Jakob Oestergaard
2002-06-24  6:27                                               ` Craig I. Hagan
2002-06-24 13:06                                                 ` J.A. Magallon
2002-06-24 10:59                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-21 19:34                                     ` Rob Landley
2002-06-22 15:31                                       ` Alan Cox
2002-06-22 12:24                                         ` Rob Landley
2002-06-22 19:00                                           ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2002-06-22 21:09                                         ` jdow
2002-06-23 17:56                                           ` John Alvord
2002-06-23 20:48                                             ` jdow
2002-06-23 21:40                                         ` [OT] " Xavier Bestel
2002-06-22 18:25                                   ` latest linus-2.5 BK broken Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-22 19:26                                     ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-22 22:25                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-22 23:10                                         ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-23  6:34                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-06-23 22:56                                       ` Kai Henningsen
2002-06-20 17:16                             ` RW Hawkins
2002-06-20 17:23                               ` Cort Dougan
2002-06-20 20:40                             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 20:53                               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 21:27                                 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 21:37                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 21:59                                     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 22:18                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 22:41                                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-21  0:09                                           ` Allen Campbell
2002-06-21  7:43                                       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-21 21:02                                       ` Rob Landley
2002-06-22  3:57                                         ` (RFC)i386 arch autodetect( was Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken ) Matthew D. Pitts
2002-06-22  4:54                                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-06-21 16:01                                     ` Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken Sandy Harris
2002-06-21 20:38                                   ` Rob Landley
2002-06-20 21:13                               ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-06-21 19:53                               ` Rob Landley
2002-06-21  5:34                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-19 10:21                   ` Padraig Brady
2002-06-18 21:45                 ` Bill Huey
2002-06-18 20:55             ` Robert Love [this message]
2002-06-19 13:31               ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 19:29     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-06-18 19:19       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-18 19:49         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-06-18 19:27           ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-18 20:13       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 22:03         ` Ingo Molnar
2002-06-18 23:38 Michael Hohnbaum
2002-06-18 23:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-06-19  0:08   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-06-19  1:00   ` Matthew Dobson
2002-06-19 23:48   ` Michael Hohnbaum
     [not found] <E17KSLb-0007Dj-00@wagner.rustcorp.com.au>
2002-06-19  0:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 15:23   ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-19 16:28     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 20:57       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-20 23:48 Miles Lane
2002-06-21  7:31 Martin Knoblauch
2002-06-21 12:59 Jesse Pollard
2002-06-24 21:28 Paul McKenney

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