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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Michael Hohnbaum <hohnbaum@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<colpatch@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 02:08:59 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206190201220.28144-100000@e2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206190145580.28144-100000@e2>


another thought would be that the 'default' memory affinity can be derived
from the CPU affinity. A default process, one which is affine to all CPUs,
can have memory allocated from all memory nodes. A process which is bound
to a given set of CPUs, should get its memory allocated from the nodes
that 'belong' to those CPUs.

the topology might not be as simple as this, but generally it's the CPU
that drives the topology, so a given CPU affinity mask leads to a specific
'preferred memory nodes' bitmask - there isnt much choice needed on the
user's part, in fact it might be contraproductive to bind a process to
some CPU and bind its memory allocations to a very distant memory node.  
While mathematically there is not necesserily any 1:1 relationship between
CPU affinity and 'best memory affinity', technologically there is.

per-object affinity might still be possible under these scheme, it would
override whatever 'default' memory affinity is derived from the CPU
affinity mask. [that would enable for example for an important database
file to be locked to a given memory node, and helper processes executing
on distant CPUs will not cause a distant pagecache page to be allocated.]

another advantage is that this removes the burden from the application
writer, of having to figure out the actual memory topology and fitting the
CPU affinity to the memory affinity (and vice versa). The kernel can
figure out a good default memory affinity based on the CPU affinity mask.

(so everything so far points in the direction of having a simple CPU
affinity syscall, which we have now.)

	Ingo


  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-19  0:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-18 23:38 Michael Hohnbaum
2002-06-18 23:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-06-19  0:08   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2002-06-19  1:00   ` Matthew Dobson
2002-06-19 23:48   ` Michael Hohnbaum
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-24 21:28 Paul McKenney
2002-06-21 12:59 Jesse Pollard
2002-06-21  7:31 Martin Knoblauch
2002-06-20 23:48 Miles Lane
     [not found] <E17KSLb-0007Dj-00@wagner.rustcorp.com.au>
2002-06-19  0:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 15:23   ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-19 16:28     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 20:57       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 17:18 James Simmons
2002-06-18 17:46 ` Robert Love
2002-06-18 18:51   ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 18:43     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-18 18:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 18:59       ` Robert Love
2002-06-18 20:05       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:05         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 20:31           ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 21:12               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-06-18 21:08                 ` Cort Dougan
2002-06-18 21:47                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 12:29                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-19 17:27                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20  3:57                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-20  5:24                           ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-20  7:26                             ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-20 14:54                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-20 16:30                           ` Cort Dougan
2002-06-20 17:15                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-21  6:15                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-21 17:50                                 ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-21 17:55                                   ` Robert Love
2002-06-22 18:25                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-22 19:26                                     ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-22 22:25                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-22 23:10                                         ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-23  6:34                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-06-23 22:56                                       ` Kai Henningsen
2002-06-20 17:16                             ` RW Hawkins
2002-06-20 17:23                               ` Cort Dougan
2002-06-20 20:40                             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 20:53                               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 21:27                                 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 21:37                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 21:59                                     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 22:18                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 22:41                                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-21  0:09                                           ` Allen Campbell
2002-06-21  7:43                                       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-21 21:02                                       ` Rob Landley
2002-06-21 20:38                                   ` Rob Landley
2002-06-20 21:13                               ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-06-21 19:53                               ` Rob Landley
2002-06-21  5:34                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-19 10:21                   ` Padraig Brady
2002-06-18 21:45                 ` Bill Huey
2002-06-18 20:55             ` Robert Love
2002-06-19 13:31               ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 19:29     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-06-18 19:19       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-18 19:49         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-06-18 19:27           ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-18 20:13       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 22:03         ` Ingo Molnar

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