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From: Nagendra Singh Tomar <nagendra_tomar@adaptec.com>
To: Timo Sirainen <tss@iki.fi>
Cc: "Tomar, Nagendra" <nagendra_tomar@adaptec.com>,
	Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>, <root@chaos.analogic.com>,
	Martin Konold <martin.konold@erfrakon.de>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Lockless file reading
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 02:45:25 +0530 (IST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0308280242340.14580-100000@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1062060035.1456.222.camel@hurina>


On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Timo Sirainen wrote:

> On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 21:42, Nagendra Singh Tomar wrote:
> > Hi,
> >     I beleive ur original post was to address the case of a reader
> reading 
> > a file getting *incorrect* data due to the file being written 
> > simultaneously by another writer process.
> 
> Well, "old" data, which mixed with new data would become incorrect as a
> whole.

What is this mixing we are talking of ??

> 
> > Why do u require file locking if there is a *single* writer ?? I don't
> 
> > understand why a 123 written over XXX can result in 1X3. The kernel
> should 
> > take care of this. When the writer process is writing 123 it will
> first be 
> > written to the page cache. The page cache lock will be taken inside
> the 
> > kernel before writing to it, so we know that writing 123 over XXX will
> be 
> > atomic.  Now even when this page is flushed to disk, the page lock
> would 
> > be taken. So I cannot see a possibility of 123 written over XXX being
> read 
> > as 1X3.
> 
> That was my original plan, to just rely on such kernel behaviour. I just
> don't know if it's such a good idea to rely on that, especially if I
> want to keep my program portable. I'll probably fallback to that anyway
> if my checksumming ideas won't work.

But I don't see any problem with a single writer and >=1 reader. There is 
no question of portability.

tomar
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-28 10:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-27 12:37 Timo Sirainen
2003-08-27 12:42 ` Martin Konold
2003-08-27 12:52   ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-27 13:40     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-08-27 14:56       ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-27 23:39         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28  0:52           ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-27 18:42             ` Nagendra Singh Tomar
2003-08-28  8:40               ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-27 21:15                 ` Nagendra Singh Tomar [this message]
2003-08-28  9:35                   ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-27 21:52                     ` Nagendra Singh Tomar
2003-08-28 13:26                       ` Matthias Andree
2003-08-28  9:17                 ` David Schwartz
2003-08-28  8:42               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-08-28 20:13                 ` David B. Stevens
2003-08-28  1:50             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28  3:17               ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-28  6:01                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-08-28  6:13                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28  8:57                   ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-28  9:56                     ` David Schwartz
2003-08-28 10:26                       ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-27 22:58                         ` Nagendra Singh Tomar
2003-08-28 12:18                           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28  0:39                             ` Nagendra Singh Tomar
2003-08-28 13:00                               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28  1:06                                 ` Nagendra Singh Tomar
2003-08-28 21:49                             ` Bernd Eckenfels
2003-08-28 12:01                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28 13:28                           ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-28 20:24                         ` David Schwartz
2003-08-28 12:44                       ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2003-08-28 13:03                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28 17:26                           ` root
2003-08-28 17:35                             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28 18:10                               ` root
2003-08-28 21:59                             ` Bernd Eckenfels
2003-08-28 23:02                               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28 23:44                               ` Lockless file readingu root
2003-08-29 10:00                                 ` jlnance
2003-08-29 11:55                                   ` David Schwartz
2003-08-29 15:43                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-28 20:37                         ` Lockless file reading David Schwartz
2003-08-28 22:11                           ` Bernd Eckenfels
2003-08-28 23:00                             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-29  0:47                             ` David Schwartz
2003-08-28  9:13                 ` Martin Konold
2003-08-28  9:27                   ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-28  9:48                     ` Martin Konold
2003-08-28  0:03       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28 12:08         ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-08-28 12:39           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28 10:08   ` Matthias Andree
2003-08-28 10:54 ` Robin Rosenberg
2003-08-28 12:42   ` Jamie Lokier

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