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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
Cc: brauner@kernel.org, djwong@kernel.org, cem@kernel.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ojaswin@linux.ibm.com,
	ritesh.list@gmail.com, martin.petersen@oracle.com, tytso@mit.edu,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 12/12] xfs: Allow block allocator to take an alignment hint
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 06:51:59 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z9Hl39cS-V2r-5mY@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ad152fa0-0767-45cb-921e-c3e9f5eac110@oracle.com>

On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 12:10:44PM +0000, John Garry wrote:
> On 09/03/2025 22:03, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 05:11:20PM +0000, John Garry wrote:
> > > diff --git a/fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_bmap.h b/fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_bmap.h
> > > index 4b721d935994..e6baa81e20d8 100644
> > > --- a/fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_bmap.h
> > > +++ b/fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_bmap.h
> > > @@ -87,6 +87,9 @@ struct xfs_bmalloca {
> > >   /* Do not update the rmap btree.  Used for reconstructing bmbt from rmapbt. */
> > >   #define XFS_BMAPI_NORMAP	(1u << 10)
> > > +/* Try to align allocations to the extent size hint */
> > > +#define XFS_BMAPI_EXTSZALIGN	(1u << 11)
> > 
> > Don't we already do that?
> > 
> > Or is this doing something subtle and non-obvious like overriding
> > stripe width alignment for large atomic writes?
> > 
> 
> stripe alignment only comes into play for eof allocation.
> 
> args->alignment is used in xfs_alloc_compute_aligned() to actually align the
> start bno.
> 
> If I don't have this, then we can get this ping-pong affect when overwriting
> atomically the same region:
> 
> # dd if=/dev/zero of=mnt/file bs=1M count=10 conv=fsync
> # xfs_bmap -vp mnt/file
> mnt/file:
> EXT: FILE-OFFSET      BLOCK-RANGE      AG AG-OFFSET        TOTAL FLAGS
>   0: [0..20479]:      192..20671        0 (192..20671)     20480 000000
> # /xfs_io -d -C "pwrite -b 64k -V 1 -A -D 0 64k" mnt/file
> wrote 65536/65536 bytes at offset 0
> 64 KiB, 1 ops; 0.0525 sec (1.190 MiB/sec and 19.0425 ops/sec)
> # xfs_bmap -vp mnt/file
> mnt/file:
> EXT: FILE-OFFSET      BLOCK-RANGE      AG AG-OFFSET        TOTAL FLAGS
>   0: [0..127]:        20672..20799      0 (20672..20799)     128 000000
>   1: [128..20479]:    320..20671        0 (320..20671)     20352 000000
> # /xfs_io -d -C "pwrite -b 64k -V 1 -A -D 0 64k" mnt/file
> wrote 65536/65536 bytes at offset 0
> 64 KiB, 1 ops; 0.0524 sec (1.191 MiB/sec and 19.0581 ops/sec)
> # xfs_bmap -vp mnt/file
> mnt/file:
> EXT: FILE-OFFSET      BLOCK-RANGE      AG AG-OFFSET        TOTAL FLAGS
>   0: [0..20479]:      192..20671        0 (192..20671)     20480 000000
> # /xfs_io -d -C "pwrite -b 64k -V 1 -A -D 0 64k" mnt/file
> wrote 65536/65536 bytes at offset 0
> 64 KiB, 1 ops; 0.0524 sec (1.191 MiB/sec and 19.0611 ops/sec)
> # xfs_bmap -vp mnt/file
> mnt/file:
> EXT: FILE-OFFSET      BLOCK-RANGE      AG AG-OFFSET        TOTAL FLAGS
>   0: [0..127]:        20672..20799      0 (20672..20799)     128 000000
>   1: [128..20479]:    320..20671        0 (320..20671)     20352 000000
> 
> We are never getting aligned extents wrt write length, and so have to fall
> back to the SW-based atomic write always. That is not what we want.

Please add a comment to explain this where the XFS_BMAPI_EXTSZALIGN
flag is set, because it's not at all obvious what it is doing or why
it is needed from the name of the variable or the implementation.

-Dave.

-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-12 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-03 17:11 [PATCH v4 00/12] large atomic writes for xfs with CoW John Garry
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 01/12] xfs: Pass flags to xfs_reflink_allocate_cow() John Garry
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 02/12] iomap: Rename IOMAP_ATOMIC -> IOMAP_ATOMIC_HW John Garry
2025-03-05 12:57   ` Carlos Maiolino
2025-03-06  8:50     ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 03/12] xfs: Switch atomic write size check in xfs_file_write_iter() John Garry
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 04/12] xfs: Refactor xfs_reflink_end_cow_extent() John Garry
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 05/12] iomap: Support SW-based atomic writes John Garry
2025-03-09 21:51   ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-10 10:44     ` John Garry
2025-03-10 17:21       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 06/12] iomap: Lift blocksize restriction on " John Garry
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 07/12] xfs: Reflink CoW-based atomic write support John Garry
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 08/12] xfs: Iomap SW-based " John Garry
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 09/12] xfs: Add xfs_file_dio_write_atomic() John Garry
2025-03-10 13:39   ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-03-10 15:24     ` John Garry
2025-03-10 17:25       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 10/12] xfs: Commit CoW-based atomic writes atomically John Garry
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 11/12] xfs: Update atomic write max size John Garry
2025-03-10 10:06   ` Carlos Maiolino
2025-03-10 10:54     ` John Garry
2025-03-10 11:11       ` Carlos Maiolino
2025-03-10 11:20         ` John Garry
2025-03-10 12:38           ` Carlos Maiolino
2025-03-10 12:59             ` John Garry
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 12/12] xfs: Allow block allocator to take an alignment hint John Garry
2025-03-09 22:03   ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-10 12:10     ` John Garry
2025-03-12 19:51       ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2025-03-12 21:00         ` John Garry
2025-03-06  8:47 ` (subset) [PATCH v4 00/12] large atomic writes for xfs with CoW Christian Brauner

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