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From: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: brauner@kernel.org, djwong@kernel.org, cem@kernel.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ojaswin@linux.ibm.com,
	ritesh.list@gmail.com, martin.petersen@oracle.com, tytso@mit.edu,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 12/12] xfs: Allow block allocator to take an alignment hint
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 12:10:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ad152fa0-0767-45cb-921e-c3e9f5eac110@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z84QRx_yEDEDUxr5@dread.disaster.area>

On 09/03/2025 22:03, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 05:11:20PM +0000, John Garry wrote:
>> When issuing an atomic write by the CoW method, give the block allocator a
>> hint to align to the extszhint.
>>
>> This means that we have a better chance to issuing the atomic write via
>> HW offload next time.
>>
>> It does mean that the inode extszhint should be set appropriately for the
>> expected atomic write size.
>>
>> Reviewed-by: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
>> Signed-off-by: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
>> ---
>>   fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_bmap.c | 7 ++++++-
>>   fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_bmap.h | 6 +++++-
>>   fs/xfs/xfs_reflink.c     | 8 ++++++--
>>   3 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_bmap.c b/fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_bmap.c
>> index 0ef19f1469ec..9bfdfb7cdcae 100644
>> --- a/fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_bmap.c
>> +++ b/fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_bmap.c
>> @@ -3454,6 +3454,12 @@ xfs_bmap_compute_alignments(
>>   		align = xfs_get_cowextsz_hint(ap->ip);
>>   	else if (ap->datatype & XFS_ALLOC_USERDATA)
>>   		align = xfs_get_extsz_hint(ap->ip);
>> +
>> +	if (align > 1 && ap->flags & XFS_BMAPI_EXTSZALIGN)
> 
> needs () around the & logic.

ok

> 
> 	if (align > 1 && (ap->flags & XFS_BMAPI_EXTSZALIGN))
> 
>> +		args->alignment = align;
>> +	else
>> +		args->alignment = 1;
> 
> When is  args->alignment not already initialised to 1?
> 
>> +
>>   	if (align) {
>>   		if (xfs_bmap_extsize_align(mp, &ap->got, &ap->prev, align, 0,
>>   					ap->eof, 0, ap->conv, &ap->offset,
>> @@ -3782,7 +3788,6 @@ xfs_bmap_btalloc(
>>   		.wasdel		= ap->wasdel,
>>   		.resv		= XFS_AG_RESV_NONE,
>>   		.datatype	= ap->datatype,
>> -		.alignment	= 1,
>>   		.minalignslop	= 0,
>>   	};
> 
> Oh, you removed the initialisation to 1, so now we have the
> possibility of getting args->alignment = 0 anywhere in the
> allocation stack?
> 
> FWIW, we've been trying to get rid of that case - args->alignment should
> always be 1 if no alignment is necessary so we don't ahve to special
> case alignment of 0  (meaning no alignemnt) anywhere. This seems
> like a step backwards from that perspective...

As I recall, doing this was a suggestion when developing the forcealign 
support (as it had similar logic).

Anyway, I can leave the init to 1 in xfs_bmap_btalloc()

> 
> 
> 
>>   	xfs_fileoff_t		orig_offset;
>> diff --git a/fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_bmap.h b/fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_bmap.h
>> index 4b721d935994..e6baa81e20d8 100644
>> --- a/fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_bmap.h
>> +++ b/fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_bmap.h
>> @@ -87,6 +87,9 @@ struct xfs_bmalloca {
>>   /* Do not update the rmap btree.  Used for reconstructing bmbt from rmapbt. */
>>   #define XFS_BMAPI_NORMAP	(1u << 10)
>>   
>> +/* Try to align allocations to the extent size hint */
>> +#define XFS_BMAPI_EXTSZALIGN	(1u << 11)
> 
> Don't we already do that?
> 
> Or is this doing something subtle and non-obvious like overriding
> stripe width alignment for large atomic writes?
>

stripe alignment only comes into play for eof allocation.

args->alignment is used in xfs_alloc_compute_aligned() to actually align 
the start bno.

If I don't have this, then we can get this ping-pong affect when 
overwriting atomically the same region:

# dd if=/dev/zero of=mnt/file bs=1M count=10 conv=fsync
# xfs_bmap -vp mnt/file
mnt/file:
EXT: FILE-OFFSET      BLOCK-RANGE      AG AG-OFFSET        TOTAL FLAGS
   0: [0..20479]:      192..20671        0 (192..20671)     20480 000000
# /xfs_io -d -C "pwrite -b 64k -V 1 -A -D 0 64k" mnt/file
wrote 65536/65536 bytes at offset 0
64 KiB, 1 ops; 0.0525 sec (1.190 MiB/sec and 19.0425 ops/sec)
# xfs_bmap -vp mnt/file
mnt/file:
EXT: FILE-OFFSET      BLOCK-RANGE      AG AG-OFFSET        TOTAL FLAGS
   0: [0..127]:        20672..20799      0 (20672..20799)     128 000000
   1: [128..20479]:    320..20671        0 (320..20671)     20352 000000
# /xfs_io -d -C "pwrite -b 64k -V 1 -A -D 0 64k" mnt/file
wrote 65536/65536 bytes at offset 0
64 KiB, 1 ops; 0.0524 sec (1.191 MiB/sec and 19.0581 ops/sec)
# xfs_bmap -vp mnt/file
mnt/file:
EXT: FILE-OFFSET      BLOCK-RANGE      AG AG-OFFSET        TOTAL FLAGS
   0: [0..20479]:      192..20671        0 (192..20671)     20480 000000
# /xfs_io -d -C "pwrite -b 64k -V 1 -A -D 0 64k" mnt/file
wrote 65536/65536 bytes at offset 0
64 KiB, 1 ops; 0.0524 sec (1.191 MiB/sec and 19.0611 ops/sec)
# xfs_bmap -vp mnt/file
mnt/file:
EXT: FILE-OFFSET      BLOCK-RANGE      AG AG-OFFSET        TOTAL FLAGS
   0: [0..127]:        20672..20799      0 (20672..20799)     128 000000
   1: [128..20479]:    320..20671        0 (320..20671)     20352 000000

We are never getting aligned extents wrt write length, and so have to 
fall back to the SW-based atomic write always. That is not what we want.

Thanks,
John


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-10 12:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-03 17:11 [PATCH v4 00/12] large atomic writes for xfs with CoW John Garry
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 01/12] xfs: Pass flags to xfs_reflink_allocate_cow() John Garry
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 02/12] iomap: Rename IOMAP_ATOMIC -> IOMAP_ATOMIC_HW John Garry
2025-03-05 12:57   ` Carlos Maiolino
2025-03-06  8:50     ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 03/12] xfs: Switch atomic write size check in xfs_file_write_iter() John Garry
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 04/12] xfs: Refactor xfs_reflink_end_cow_extent() John Garry
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 05/12] iomap: Support SW-based atomic writes John Garry
2025-03-09 21:51   ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-10 10:44     ` John Garry
2025-03-10 17:21       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 06/12] iomap: Lift blocksize restriction on " John Garry
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 07/12] xfs: Reflink CoW-based atomic write support John Garry
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 08/12] xfs: Iomap SW-based " John Garry
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 09/12] xfs: Add xfs_file_dio_write_atomic() John Garry
2025-03-10 13:39   ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-03-10 15:24     ` John Garry
2025-03-10 17:25       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 10/12] xfs: Commit CoW-based atomic writes atomically John Garry
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 11/12] xfs: Update atomic write max size John Garry
2025-03-10 10:06   ` Carlos Maiolino
2025-03-10 10:54     ` John Garry
2025-03-10 11:11       ` Carlos Maiolino
2025-03-10 11:20         ` John Garry
2025-03-10 12:38           ` Carlos Maiolino
2025-03-10 12:59             ` John Garry
2025-03-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v4 12/12] xfs: Allow block allocator to take an alignment hint John Garry
2025-03-09 22:03   ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-10 12:10     ` John Garry [this message]
2025-03-12 19:51       ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-12 21:00         ` John Garry
2025-03-06  8:47 ` (subset) [PATCH v4 00/12] large atomic writes for xfs with CoW Christian Brauner

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