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From: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zhenyu Wang <zhenyuw@linux.intel.com>,
	"Ben Gardon" <bgardon@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	<intel-gvt-dev@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Zhi Wang <zhi.a.wang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 25/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Drop @slot param from exported/external page-track APIs
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 10:58:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZF2rTFD9pTIVK/A3@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZF1usP8CGPxZWIj3@google.com>

> > Hi Sean,
> > After more thoughts, do you think checking KVM internal memslot is necessary?
> 
> I don't think it's necessary per se, but I also can't think of any reason to allow
> it.
> 
> > slot = gfn_to_memslot(kvm, gfn);
> > if (!slot || slot->id >= KVM_USER_MEM_SLOTS) {
> > 		srcu_read_unlock(&kvm->srcu, idx);
> > 		return -EINVAL;
> > }
> > 
> > Do we allow write tracking to APIC access page when APIC-write VM exit
> > is not desired?
> 
> Allow?  Yes.
>  
> But KVM doesn't use write-tracking for anything APICv related, e.g. to disable
> APICv, KVM instead zaps the SPTEs for the APIC access page and on page fault goes
> straight to MMIO emulation.
> 
> Theoretically, the guest could create an intermediate PTE in the APIC access page
> and AFAICT KVM would shadow the access and write-protect the APIC access page.
> But that's benign as the resulting emulation would be handled just like emulated
> APIC MMIO.
> 
> FWIW, the other internal memslots, TSS and idenity mapped page tables, are used
> if and only if paging is disabled in the guest, i.e. there are no guest PTEs for
> KVM to shadow (and paging must be enabled to enable VMX, so nested EPT is also
> ruled out).  So this is theoretically possible only for the APIC access page.
> That changes with KVMGT, but that again should not be problematic.  KVM will
> emulate in response to the write-protected page and things go on.  E.g. it's
> arguably much weirder that the guest can read/write the identity mapped page
> tables that are used for EPT without unrestricted guest.
> 
> There's no sane reason to allow creating PTEs in the APIC page, but I'm also not
> all that motivated to "fix" things.   account_shadowed() isn't expected to fail,
> so KVM would need to check further up the stack, e.g. in walk_addr_generic() by
> open coding a form of kvm_vcpu_gfn_to_hva_prot().
> 
> I _think_ that's the only place KVM would need to add a check, as KVM already
> checks that the root, i.e. CR3, is in a "visible" memslot.  I suppose KVM could
> just synthesize triple fault, like it does for the root/CR3 case, but I don't
> like making up behavior.
> 
> In other words, I'm not opposed to disallowing write-tracking internal memslots,
> but I can't think of anything that will break, and so for me personally at least,
> the ROI isn't sufficient to justify writing tests and dealing with any fallout.

It makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-12  3:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-11  0:22 [PATCH v2 00/27] drm/i915/gvt: KVM: KVMGT fixes and page-track cleanups Sean Christopherson
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 01/27] drm/i915/gvt: Verify pfn is "valid" before dereferencing "struct page" Sean Christopherson
2023-03-13 15:37   ` Wang, Wei W
2023-03-15 18:13     ` [Intel-gfx] " Andrzej Hajda
2023-03-15 19:23       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17  4:20   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 02/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Factor out helper to get max mapping size of a memslot Sean Christopherson
2023-03-13 15:37   ` Wang, Wei W
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 03/27] drm/i915/gvt: remove interface intel_gvt_is_valid_gfn Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17  4:26   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 04/27] drm/i915/gvt: Incorporate KVM memslot info into check for 2MiB GTT entry Sean Christopherson
2023-03-14  3:09   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-14 17:13     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 05/27] drm/i915/gvt: Verify VFIO-pinned page is THP when shadowing 2M gtt entry Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17  5:33   ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-04 20:41     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-06  6:35       ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-06 10:57         ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-08 14:05           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 06/27] drm/i915/gvt: Put the page reference obtained by KVM's gfn_to_pfn() Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17  6:18   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 07/27] drm/i915/gvt: Don't rely on KVM's gfn_to_pfn() to query possible 2M GTT Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17  5:37   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 08/27] drm/i915/gvt: Use an "unsigned long" to iterate over memslot gfns Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17  6:19   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 09/27] drm/i915/gvt: Drop unused helper intel_vgpu_reset_gtt() Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17  6:20   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 10/27] drm/i915/gvt: Protect gfn hash table with vgpu_lock Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17  6:21   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 11/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Don't rely on page-track mechanism to flush on memslot change Sean Christopherson
2023-03-15  1:08   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-15 15:32     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 12/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Don't bounce through page-track mechanism for guest PTEs Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17  6:37   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 13/27] KVM: drm/i915/gvt: Drop @vcpu from KVM's ->track_write() hook Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17  7:28   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 14/27] KVM: x86: Reject memslot MOVE operations if KVMGT is attached Sean Christopherson
2023-03-15  8:03   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-15 15:43     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-16  9:27       ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-17  7:29   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 15/27] drm/i915/gvt: Don't bother removing write-protection on to-be-deleted slot Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17  7:30   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 16/27] KVM: x86: Add a new page-track hook to handle memslot deletion Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17  7:43   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-17 16:20     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 17/27] drm/i915/gvt: switch from ->track_flush_slot() to ->track_remove_region() Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17  7:45   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 18/27] KVM: x86: Remove the unused page-track hook track_flush_slot() Sean Christopherson
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 19/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Move KVM-only page-track declarations to internal header Sean Christopherson
2023-03-15  8:44   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-15 15:13     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-16  9:19       ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 20/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Use page-track notifiers iff there are external users Sean Christopherson
2023-03-15  9:34   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-15 16:21     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-16  9:29       ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-15 10:36   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-15 16:54     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-04 19:54       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-06  1:08         ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 21/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Drop infrastructure for multiple page-track modes Sean Christopherson
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 22/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Rename page-track APIs to reflect the new reality Sean Christopherson
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 23/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Assert that correct locks are held for page write-tracking Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17  7:55   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 24/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Bug the VM if write-tracking is used but not enabled Sean Christopherson
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 25/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Drop @slot param from exported/external page-track APIs Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17  8:28   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-23  8:50     ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-03 23:16       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-04  2:17         ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-08  1:15           ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-11 22:39             ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-12  2:58               ` Yan Zhao [this message]
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 26/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Handle KVM bookkeeping in page-track APIs, not callers Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17  8:52   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-11  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 27/27] drm/i915/gvt: Drop final dependencies on KVM internal details Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17  8:58   ` Yan Zhao
2023-03-13  9:58 ` [PATCH v2 00/27] drm/i915/gvt: KVM: KVMGT fixes and page-track cleanups Yan Zhao

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