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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Naohiro.Aota@wdc.com, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 9/9] workqueue: Implement system-wide nr_active enforcement for unbound workqueues
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2024 06:18:14 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZbKJxri2LJCUkPH2@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJhGHyByJkvANA_w2JXeOiZYid9cQ=5a5dZSwSBLgBL_oKkWUg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, Lai.

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:54:26AM +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> If an active item for a PWQ is canceled, the PWQ will lose a hard-earned
> nr_active and have to wait on the round-robbin queue for another nr_active.
> 
> It seems it is unfair for this PWQ. If a user's program pattern is
> queuing-checking-cancelling items, it can cause delays for other users
> sharing the same workqueue.

pwq's get RR-queued iff there's congetion in the workqueue and when an
inactive work item gets activated, it gets dispatched for execution right
away. Note that for unbound workqueues, need_more_worker() is always true
when there are active work items on the worklist.

ie. The only time there's meaningful time window between a work item getting
activated and starting execution is when more workers need to be created and
the system is under significant memory pressure. Note that the former is
always a temporary condition as we retain workers for a while once they're
created.

IOW, there's no meaningful time window in which a work item which was
activated after waiting on node_nr_active pending list and then can get
canceled. It's a possible but fringe scenario which won't happen in any
meaningful frequency and even when that happens the impact isn't much to
worry about. I don't think it's a good idea to add complications for such
cases.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

      reply	other threads:[~2024-01-25 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-13  0:28 [PATCHSET v2 wq/for-6.8] workqueue: Implement system-wide max_active " Tejun Heo
2024-01-13  0:28 ` [PATCH 1/9] workqueue: Move pwq->max_active to wq->max_active Tejun Heo
2024-01-13  0:28 ` [PATCH 2/9] workqueue: Factor out pwq_is_empty() Tejun Heo
2024-01-13  0:28 ` [PATCH 3/9] workqueue: Replace pwq_activate_inactive_work() with [__]pwq_activate_work() Tejun Heo
2024-01-13  0:28 ` [PATCH 4/9] workqueue: Move nr_active handling into helpers Tejun Heo
2024-01-13  0:28 ` [PATCH 5/9] workqueue: Make wq_adjust_max_active() round-robin pwqs while activating Tejun Heo
2024-01-13  0:28 ` [PATCH 6/9] workqueue: Add first_possible_node and node_nr_cpus[] Tejun Heo
2024-01-13  0:28 ` [PATCH 7/9] workqueue: Move pwq_dec_nr_in_flight() to the end of work item handling Tejun Heo
2024-01-13  0:28 ` [PATCH 8/9] workqueue: Introduce struct wq_node_nr_active Tejun Heo
2024-01-19  7:55   ` Lai Jiangshan
2024-01-24  0:13     ` Tejun Heo
2024-01-13  0:28 ` [PATCH 9/9] workqueue: Implement system-wide nr_active enforcement for unbound workqueues Tejun Heo
2024-01-19  7:54   ` Lai Jiangshan
2024-01-24  0:30     ` Tejun Heo
2024-01-24  2:54       ` Lai Jiangshan
2024-01-25 16:18         ` Tejun Heo [this message]

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