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From: Qi Hu <huqi@loongson.cn>
To: WANG Xuerui <kernel@xen0n.name>, Xi Ruoyao <xry111@xry111.site>,
	Jiaxun Yang <jiaxun.yang@flygoat.com>,
	Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>
Cc: loongarch@lists.linux.dev, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] LoongArch: Clean useless vcsr in loongarch_fpu.
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2022 14:39:35 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a8780a34-2926-ab6a-ca1d-419dceee5ad1@loongson.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c5ed4251-04e3-c8a3-c19a-ff4fee469371@xen0n.name>


On 2022/7/7 14:24, WANG Xuerui wrote:
>
> On 2022/7/7 14:09, Qi Hu wrote:
>>
>> On 2022/7/7 12:22, WANG Xuerui wrote:
>>> On 2022/7/7 12:04, Xi Ruoyao wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 2022-07-07 at 11:05 +0800, WANG Xuerui wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> To be frank, at this point I think you're trying to hide something.
>>>>> (This is not your fault, blame someone else of course because they 
>>>>> told
>>>>> you the fact.) In the old-world kernel the VCSR a.k.a. FCSR16 is
>>>>> certainly being saved/restored, and there's apparently no harm in 
>>>>> doing
>>>>> so. And if the contents are indeed "undefined", why are the code 
>>>>> there
>>>>> in the first place? Certainly the bits *are* meaningful, only that 
>>>>> for
>>>>> some reason you aren't revealing the semantics and pretending that 
>>>>> they
>>>>> are "undefined" and probably "do nothing externally observable" if
>>>>> accessed in the first place.
>>>> On a 3A5000LL, I did an experiment via a kernel module, which enables
>>>> LSX/LASX and tries to write and read fcsr16.  I tried each bit (1, 
>>>> 2, 4,
>>>> 8, ..., 1 << 31) one by one.  The result: no matter which bit I wrote
>>>> into fcsr16, I always read out 0.
>>>>
>>>> And I've objdump'ed a kernel shipped in an early Loongnix release.  It
>>>> seems the only reference to fcsr16 is a "movgr2fcsr $r16, $r0"
>>>> instruction.
>>>
>>> Hmm this is weird. I can't understand why the vcsr code was there in 
>>> the first place then... I'd like to check a few Loongnix/Kylin/UOS 
>>> kernels but currently I don't have the time.
>>>
>>> If this is the case, indeed all vcsr-related code should be removed. 
>>> Although I'm still not sure how to best word the commit message.
>>>
>> Thanks for the Ruoyao's experiment.
>>
>> Removing the vcsr is the first step to trying to support LBT and 
>> LSX/LASX in Kernel. In my opinion, the vcsr relevant code may be used 
>> for debugging and forgot to remove.
>>
> Thinking about it harder, it actually makes sense. Given that access 
> to the LSX/LASX manuals is currently restricted, outsiders can never 
> know whether the code in question is really needed, so one has to err 
> on the conservative side. Thanks for the clarification, and my 
> apologies for being harsh in the previous reply.
>
> I think the commit message could be reworded like:
>
> "The VCSR (also known as FCSR16) is not present on retail steppings of 
> 3A5000. FCSR16 through FCSR31 are reserved for non-floating-point 
> LSX/LASX operations, but on 3A5000 all writes to them are no-op and 
> all reads return zero. FP LSX/LASX operations reuse the FCSR0 as their 
> CSR.
>
> Remove VCSR handling that is probably leftover debugging code for an 
> earlier not-for-retail stepping."
>
> (And remove the trailing period in your patch title, while at it; the 
> Linux kernel doesn't use a trailing period for majority of its commits.)
>
Thanks for reminding me about this. It is my first time committing the 
patch to Linux Kernel, and the commit message will be modified at V4 patch.

-

Qi


  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-07  6:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-04 15:36 Qi Hu
2022-07-05  8:46 ` WANG Xuerui
2022-07-05  9:49   ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-05 10:00     ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-06  2:35       ` Huacai Chen
2022-07-06  2:51         ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-06  4:00           ` Qi Hu
2022-07-06 20:49             ` Jiaxun Yang
2022-07-07  1:29               ` Qi Hu
2022-07-07  3:05                 ` WANG Xuerui
2022-07-07  4:04                   ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-07  4:22                     ` WANG Xuerui
2022-07-07  6:09                       ` Qi Hu
2022-07-07  6:24                         ` WANG Xuerui
2022-07-07  6:39                           ` Qi Hu [this message]
2022-07-07  5:42                   ` Qi Hu

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