From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>,
Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>,
Luigi De Matteis <ldematteis123@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 03/10] sched/ext: Add a DL server for sched_ext tasks
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2025 14:23:39 -1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aD5Ai3xJdnV5SxG0@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250602180110.816225-4-joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
On Mon, Jun 02, 2025 at 02:00:59PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
...
> @@ -2308,6 +2311,15 @@ static void enqueue_task_scx(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int enq_flags
> if (enq_flags & SCX_ENQ_WAKEUP)
> touch_core_sched(rq, p);
>
> + if (rq->scx.nr_running == 1) {
> + /* Account for idle runtime */
> + if (!rq->nr_running)
> + dl_server_update_idle_time(rq, rq->curr, &rq->ext_server);
> +
> + /* Start dl_server if this is the first task being enqueued */
> + dl_server_start(&rq->ext_server);
> + }
The following patch from Peter isn't upstream yet but SCX probably should do
something similar. Otherwise, the start/stop overhead can become pretty
expensive:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250520094538.086709102@infradead.org/
Another thing which is worth considering is that while rq->nr_running based
test would work in a lot of cases, it won't work in all cases for SCX as the
BPF scheduler may choose to not dispatch to the particular CPU even if a
task is currently associated with it.
For example, a soft partitioning scheduler might change partition CPU
allocations after enqueue() is complete and a task may end up associated
with a CPU that's no longer in its partition and when dispatch() is called
from the CPU, the BPF scheduler may not consume that task. This can become a
problem for the dl server based forward progress guarantee as that task is
enabling the dl server only on the rq that it's currently associated with.
This shouldn't be too common and the proposed patch puts us back in the same
state as the original RT bandwidth control, so no need to hold this series
for this issue but I think the right solution would be adding an optional
SCX operation so that the BPF scheduler can decide which CPUs should be
running the dl server.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-03 0:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-02 18:00 [PATCH v2 00/10] Add a deadline " Joel Fernandes
2025-06-02 18:00 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] sched: Add support to pick functions to take rf Joel Fernandes
2025-06-03 0:05 ` Tejun Heo
2025-06-03 13:38 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-03 18:18 ` Tejun Heo
2025-06-02 18:00 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] sched: Add a server arg to dl_server_update_idle_time() Joel Fernandes
2025-06-02 18:00 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] sched/ext: Add a DL server for sched_ext tasks Joel Fernandes
2025-06-03 0:23 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2025-06-12 16:54 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-12 18:16 ` Tejun Heo
2025-06-02 18:01 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] sched/debug: Fix updating of ppos on server write ops Joel Fernandes
2025-06-04 10:04 ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-02 18:01 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] sched/debug: Stop and start server based on if it was active Joel Fernandes
2025-06-02 18:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] sched/debug: Add support to change sched_ext server params Joel Fernandes
2025-06-04 10:02 ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-04 18:40 ` Tejun Heo
2025-06-05 18:45 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-02 18:01 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] sched/deadline: Clear the defer params Joel Fernandes
2025-06-02 18:01 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] sched/deadline: Add support to remove DL server bandwidth Joel Fernandes
2025-06-02 18:01 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] sched/ext: Relinquish DL server reservations when not needed Joel Fernandes
2025-06-03 4:29 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-02 18:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] selftests/sched_ext: Add test for sched_ext dl_server Joel Fernandes
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