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From: Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Cc: Ian Molton <ian@mnementh.co.uk>,
	Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Pierre Ossman <drzeus@drzeus.cx>,
	Magnus Damm <damm@opensource.se>
Subject: Re: MMC: Make the configuration memory resource optional
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:51:30 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aec7e5c30907290551y77edc6d7qb7b3d787215c2b4@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090729124233.GA12802@rakim.wolfsonmicro.main>

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Mark
Brown<broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 09:27:54PM +0900, Magnus Damm wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Mark
>> Brown<broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> wrote:
>
>> > While it's true that this doesn't bother SoCs the fact that most clock
>> > API implementations don't allow any off-chip drivers to register clocks
>> > renders the clock API essentially unusable for fairly large parts of the
>
>> Yeah, clocks outside the SoC are not well supported today. From what
>> I've seen, most embedded boards come with external chips for cameras,
>> audio codecs and/or phy devices. These devices often get their clocks
>> from the main SoC. Allowing the drivers for such chips to use the
>> clock framework to register clocks for internal divisors would allow
>> driver writers to write better code which in turn would make life
>> easier for most people hacking on embedded kernels.
>
> That's not actually abundantly clear for the audio stuff, or rather the
> audio stuff would like additional features like constraint based
> configuration.

Without knowing too much about this, wouldn't camera sensors want
similar features?

>> The problem with the clock framework API is that the data structures
>> varies depending on implementation. So the ops callback structure on
>> SuperH is different compared to ARM. I suspect that adding generic
>> clocklib support across the architectures will take quite a bit of
>> time to implement propely.
>
> Indeed.  It's actually much worse than you say, each individual ARM
> architecture has its own clock API implementation of varying quality and
> of course there are architectures that don't do the clock API at all.

Yeah. This is exactly why I don't want to block on the clocklib implementation.

Cheers,

/ magnus

  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-29 12:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-17 11:10 Guennadi Liakhovetski
2009-07-17 14:19 ` Magnus Damm
2009-07-17 14:34   ` [PATCH] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2009-07-17 17:38     ` Ian Molton
2009-07-23 10:29     ` Magnus Damm
2009-07-28 13:55 ` Ian Molton
2009-07-29  2:48   ` Magnus Damm
2009-07-29 10:24     ` Ian Molton
2009-07-29 11:58     ` Mark Brown
2009-07-29 12:27       ` Magnus Damm
2009-07-29 12:35         ` Paul Mundt
2009-07-29 12:42         ` Mark Brown
2009-07-29 12:51           ` Magnus Damm [this message]
2009-07-29 12:58             ` Ian Molton
2009-07-29 13:08               ` Magnus Damm
2009-07-29 13:51                 ` Ian Molton
2009-07-29 20:17                   ` Paul Mundt
2009-07-29 20:55                     ` pHilipp Zabel
2009-07-29 21:03                       ` Paul Mundt
2009-07-30  9:59                       ` Ian Molton
2009-07-30 10:56                         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2009-07-30 19:21                           ` Ian Molton
2009-07-31  6:55                             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2009-08-03 18:51                               ` Ian Molton
2009-08-05 13:33                                 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2009-08-05 14:10                                   ` Ian Molton
2009-08-03  2:52                             ` Magnus Damm
2009-08-04 18:21                               ` Ian Molton
2009-08-05  2:08                                 ` Magnus Damm
2009-08-05 12:07                                   ` Ian Molton
2009-08-05 13:34                                   ` Ian Molton
2009-08-05 19:44                                     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2009-08-05 22:34                                       ` Ian Molton
2009-08-05 22:53                                         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2009-08-05 23:06                                           ` Ian Molton
2009-08-18  8:40                                             ` Magnus Damm
2009-08-09 19:10                                       ` MMC / MFD / Clocks Ian Molton
2009-08-10  3:48                                         ` Magnus Damm
2009-08-05 14:02                                   ` Example idea for how to solve the clock/cnf problem Ian Molton
2009-08-05 22:43                                     ` Ian Molton
2009-09-02 10:44                                       ` Magnus Damm
2009-07-30 19:33                           ` MMC: Make the configuration memory resource optional Ian Molton
2009-07-29 13:11               ` Mark Brown
2009-07-29 12:59             ` Mark Brown
2009-07-29 12:37       ` Ian Molton
2009-07-29  7:31   ` Paul Mundt

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