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From: Yosry Ahmed <yosry@kernel.org>
To: Hao Jia <jiahao.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, tj@kernel.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	 shakeel.butt@linux.dev, mhocko@kernel.org, mkoutny@suse.com,
	nphamcs@gmail.com,  chengming.zhou@linux.dev,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	 cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Hao Jia <jiahao1@lixiang.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm/zswap: Make shrink_worker writeback cursor per-memcg
Date: Sat, 30 May 2026 01:24:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aho7nepN5jZtKmef@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260526114601.67041-2-jiahao.kernel@gmail.com>

On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 07:45:58PM +0800, Hao Jia wrote:
> From: Hao Jia <jiahao1@lixiang.com>
> 
> The zswap background writeback worker shrink_worker() uses a global
> cursor zswap_next_shrink, protected by zswap_shrink_lock, to round-robin
> across the online memcgs under root_mem_cgroup.
> 
> Proactive writeback also wants a similar per-memcg cursor that is
> scoped to the specified memcg, so that repeated invocations against
> the same memcg make forward progress across its descendant memcgs
> instead of restarting from the first child memcg each time.

Is this a problem in practice?

Is the concern the overhead of scanning memcgs repeatedly, or lack of
fairness? I wonder if we should just do writeback in batches from all
memcgs, similar to how reclaim does it, then evaluate at the end if we
need to start over?

> 
> Naturally, group the cursor and its protecting spinlock into a
> zswap_wb_iter struct, and make it a member of struct mem_cgroup to
> realize per-memcg cursor management. Accordingly, shrink_worker() now
> uses the lock and cursor in root_mem_cgroup->zswap_wb_iter.

If we really need to have per-memcg cursors (I am not a big fan), I
think we can minimize the overhead by making the cursor updates use
atomic cmpxchg instead of having a per-memcg lock.

> 
> Because the cursor is now per-memcg, the offline cleanup must visit
> every ancestor that could be holding a reference to the dying memcg.
> Factor out __zswap_memcg_offline_cleanup() and walk from dead_memcg up
> to the root.

Another reason why I don't like per-memcg cursors. There is too much
complexity and I wonder if it's warranted. If we stick with per-memcg
cursors please do the refactoring in separate patches to make the
patches easier to review.

Thanks!


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-05-30  1:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-26 11:45 [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/zswap: Implement per-cgroup proactive writeback Hao Jia
2026-05-26 11:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] mm/zswap: Make shrink_worker writeback cursor per-memcg Hao Jia
2026-05-29 19:51   ` Nhat Pham
2026-05-30  1:24   ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2026-06-01 11:07     ` Hao Jia
2026-06-01 16:44       ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-01 16:47         ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-01 17:08       ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-02 11:32         ` Hao Jia
2026-06-02  0:31       ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-02 11:33         ` Hao Jia
2026-06-02 23:19           ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03  3:02             ` Hao Jia
2026-06-03 17:53               ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-04  1:58                 ` Hao Jia
2026-06-04  5:34                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-04 13:06                     ` Hao Jia
2026-06-04 16:10                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-04 17:23                       ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-08 12:50                         ` Hao Jia
2026-06-08 16:23                           ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-08 16:44                             ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-08 16:48                             ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-08 18:01                               ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-09  3:18                                 ` Hao Jia
2026-06-11 17:39                                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-12 16:40                                     ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-12 18:15                                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-15  2:45                                         ` Hao Jia
2026-05-26 11:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm/zswap: Implement proactive writeback Hao Jia
2026-05-29 19:58   ` Nhat Pham
2026-05-30  1:40     ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 11:22       ` Hao Jia
2026-06-03 17:58         ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 18:14           ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-04  2:11             ` Hao Jia
2026-06-04  5:36               ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-04 14:01                 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-08 18:30                 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-08 19:50                   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-08 20:19                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-08 22:22                       ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-08 22:27                         ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-09  4:19                           ` YoungJun Park
2026-06-11 17:45                             ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-11 19:12                               ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-12  7:27                                 ` YoungJun Park
2026-06-12 17:02                                   ` [swap tier discussion] " Shakeel Butt
2026-06-12 21:31                                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-14  9:23                                     ` YoungJun Park
2026-06-15 19:55                                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-16  1:03                                         ` YoungJun Park
2026-06-16  3:08                                           ` YoungJun Park
2026-06-16 17:30                                             ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-16 18:32                                               ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-16 19:54                                                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-16 20:08                                                   ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-16 20:10                                                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-16 20:24                                                       ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-16 20:26                                                         ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-17 17:11                                                           ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-16 11:44                                           ` Shakeel Butt
2026-05-30  1:37   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 11:27     ` Hao Jia
2026-06-03 17:55       ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 18:23       ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-03 18:26         ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 18:34           ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-03 18:43             ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 18:51               ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-03 18:54                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-05-26 11:46 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm/zswap: Add per-memcg stat for " Hao Jia
2026-05-29 20:01   ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-03 11:29     ` Hao Jia
2026-05-26 11:46 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] selftests/cgroup: Add tests for zswap " Hao Jia
2026-05-29 20:02   ` Nhat Pham

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