From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
Cc: Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>,
jeff@garzik.org, arjan@infradead.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
dwmw2@infradead.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT *] Allow request_firmware() to be satisfied from in-kernel, use it in more drivers.
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:38:36 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0807151233580.3351@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1216150288.27242.75.camel@violet.holtmann.net>
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Marcel Holtmann wrote:
>
> Personally I am against hacking file loading from within the kernel.
> This is why we involved udev (or hotplug in the beginning). It allows
> you to have userspace policy for the search paths etc.
Well, I'm personally against _forcing_ people to use udev.
Yes, desktop distros generally will do so, since there are lots of complex
issues etc. But I don't think we've generally forced it on people if they
don't want it (ie I haven't tried it personally since the distro I used
started using udev, but I think you can still just ignore udev events and
set everything up statically).
And I don't think that's wrong. Which implies that setup things should
still generally at least allow us to avoid udev.
(But maybe I'm wrong, and everybody already uses udev just because they
couldn't be bothered not to).
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-15 19:40 UTC|newest]
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2008-07-14 23:23 David Woodhouse
2008-07-14 23:41 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-14 23:47 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-14 23:53 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-15 0:23 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 0:31 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-15 0:50 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 1:08 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-15 7:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-15 0:50 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-15 0:52 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 0:53 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-15 1:13 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 20:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-15 20:49 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 20:57 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 23:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-16 7:01 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-16 21:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-16 22:42 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-17 20:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-17 21:25 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-17 22:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-18 4:15 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-14 23:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-15 0:06 ` david
2008-07-15 0:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 0:51 ` david
2008-07-15 1:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 1:18 ` david
2008-07-15 2:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 2:47 ` david
2008-07-15 7:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 15:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 17:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 17:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 17:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 17:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 17:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 18:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 18:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 18:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 18:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 18:30 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 20:00 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-07-15 20:06 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 20:30 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-07-15 21:24 ` david
2008-07-15 18:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 18:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 19:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 19:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 18:58 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-15 19:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 19:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 19:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 21:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 21:24 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 21:47 ` David Miller
2008-07-15 22:42 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 22:45 ` David Miller
2008-07-15 23:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 21:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 21:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 22:12 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 22:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-16 0:55 ` Sven-Haegar Koch
2008-07-16 8:02 ` Gabor Gombas
2008-07-16 4:55 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-15 19:27 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 1:52 ` David Miller
2008-07-15 2:23 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-15 2:24 ` David Miller
2008-07-15 2:32 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-15 2:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 2:45 ` David Miller
2008-07-15 4:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-15 5:09 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 5:45 ` david
2008-07-15 6:03 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 6:23 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-07-15 14:40 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 16:52 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-07-15 18:09 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 5:32 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-15 3:06 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-15 23:33 ` Alexandre Oliva
2008-07-15 5:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-07-15 5:30 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 1:50 ` David Miller
2008-07-15 2:54 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 5:34 ` david
2008-07-15 0:36 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 0:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 0:44 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 5:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-07-15 2:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 2:17 ` David Miller
2008-07-15 2:23 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 2:52 ` david
2008-07-15 4:45 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-07-15 1:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 2:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 2:19 ` David Miller
2008-07-15 2:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 2:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 2:40 ` David Miller
2008-07-15 2:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 3:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 4:58 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-07-15 14:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 15:09 ` david
2008-07-15 16:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 16:21 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 17:56 ` david
2008-07-15 17:35 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-07-15 17:44 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 3:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 3:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 5:06 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-07-15 5:32 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 5:36 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-07-15 5:37 ` david
2008-07-16 0:10 ` Alexandre Oliva
2008-07-16 0:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 7:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 7:36 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 8:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 15:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 16:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 17:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 17:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 17:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 8:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-15 8:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-15 12:42 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-17 21:31 ` David Miller
2008-07-15 2:48 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 5:12 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-07-15 15:57 ` Frans Pop
2008-07-15 16:04 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-15 16:24 ` Frans Pop
2008-07-15 16:36 ` Frans Pop
2008-07-15 17:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-15 17:57 ` Frans Pop
2008-07-15 16:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 16:33 ` david
2008-07-15 16:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 17:25 ` Frans Pop
2008-07-15 17:36 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 19:22 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-07-15 16:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 16:48 ` Frans Pop
2008-07-15 17:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 19:26 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-07-15 16:37 ` Frans Pop
2008-07-15 18:05 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-07-15 18:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 18:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 18:37 ` Chris Friesen
2008-07-15 18:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 19:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 19:41 ` david
2008-07-15 19:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 20:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 20:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 23:02 ` Dave Jones
2008-07-15 23:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-16 0:00 ` Dave Jones
2008-07-16 0:10 ` Chris Adams
2008-07-16 6:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 19:07 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 19:29 ` Peter T. Breuer
2008-07-15 18:20 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 19:13 ` Frans Pop
2008-07-15 19:39 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-07-15 19:20 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-07-15 19:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 19:31 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-07-15 19:38 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-07-15 19:44 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-07-15 22:19 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-15 19:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 19:36 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 19:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 19:54 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-07-15 20:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 20:21 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-07-15 20:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 20:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 21:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 20:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 20:47 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-07-15 21:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-16 22:05 ` Diego Calleja
2008-07-15 21:27 ` david
2008-07-15 21:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-15 21:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 22:20 ` Frans Pop
2008-07-15 22:24 ` david
2008-07-15 22:26 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 22:50 ` david
2008-07-15 23:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-16 0:22 ` Frans Pop
2008-07-16 0:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-16 0:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-16 1:11 ` Prosaic firmware issues Alexey Dobriyan
2008-07-16 1:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-16 5:54 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-16 14:19 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-07-16 4:42 ` [GIT *] Allow request_firmware() to be satisfied from in-kernel, use it in more drivers Willy Tarreau
2008-09-12 20:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-09-12 21:43 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-07-16 0:51 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-16 1:36 ` Dave Jones
2008-07-16 2:39 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-16 3:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-16 9:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-15 19:57 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-15 20:10 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-07-15 20:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 20:25 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-07-15 23:04 ` Dave Jones
2008-07-15 1:44 ` David Miller
2008-07-15 9:57 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-07-15 1:45 ` Jeff Garzik
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