From: "Ryan C. Gordon" <icculus@icculus.org>
To: Rayson Ho <raysonlogin@gmail.com>
Cc: "Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: FatELF patches...
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 20:17:50 -0500 (EST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.OSX.1.10.0911012017450.55434@caridad.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <73a01bf20911011408v5b6d335fj46c893a8e7d26ab4@mail.gmail.com>
> Adding code that might bring lawsuits to Linux developers,
> distributors, users is a BIG disadvantage.
I'm tracking down a lawyer to discuss the issue. I'm surprised there
aren't a few hanging around here, honestly. I sent a request in to the
SFLC, and if that doesn't pan out, I'll dig for coins in my car seat to
pay a lawyer for a few hours of her time.
If it's a big deal, we'll figure out what to do from there. But let's not
talk about the sky falling until we get to that point, please.
> "Given enough disc space, there's no reason you couldn't have one DVD
> .iso that installs an x86-64, x86, PowerPC, SPARC, and MIPS system"
I've had about a million people point out the boot loader thing. There's
an x86/amd64 forest if you can see past the MIPS trees.
Still, I said there were different points that were more compelling for
different individuals. I don't think this is the most compelling argument
on that page, and I think there's a value in talking about theoretical
benefits in addition to practical ones. Theoretical ones become practical
the moment someone decides to roll out a company-internal distribution
that works on all the workstations inside IBM or Google or whatever...even
if Fedora would turn their nose up at the idea for a general-purpose
release.
> IMO, the biggest problem users get is not with which hardware binary
> to download, but the incompatibly of different Linux kernels and glibc
> (the API/ABI).
These are concerns, too, but the kernel has been, in my experience, very
good at binary compatibility with user space back as far as I can
remember. glibc has had some painful progress, but since NPTL stabilized a
long time ago, even this hasn't been bad at all.
Certainly one has to be careful--I would even use the word diligent--to
maintain binary compatibility, but this was much more of a hurting for
application developers a decade ago.
At least, that's been my experience.
--ryan.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-02 1:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-30 2:19 Ryan C. Gordon
2009-10-30 5:42 ` Rayson Ho
2009-10-30 14:54 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-01 19:20 ` David Hagood
2009-11-01 20:28 ` Måns Rullgård
2009-11-01 20:59 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-01 21:15 ` Måns Rullgård
2009-11-01 21:35 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02 4:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-02 15:14 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-03 14:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-03 18:30 ` Matt Thrailkill
2009-11-01 22:08 ` Rayson Ho
2009-11-02 1:17 ` Ryan C. Gordon [this message]
2009-11-02 3:27 ` Rayson Ho
2009-11-02 0:01 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-02 2:21 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02 6:17 ` Julien BLACHE
2009-11-02 18:18 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02 18:59 ` Julien BLACHE
2009-11-02 19:08 ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-11-02 6:27 ` David Miller
2009-11-02 15:32 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02 9:16 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-02 17:39 ` david
2009-11-02 17:44 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-02 19:56 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-02 20:11 ` david
2009-11-02 20:33 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-03 1:35 ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-11-02 15:40 ` Diego Calleja
2009-11-04 16:40 ` package managers [was: FatELF patches...] Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 16:54 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-04 17:25 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 17:48 ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2009-11-04 18:46 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 19:46 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-04 20:04 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 20:27 ` david
2009-11-04 20:02 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-04 20:08 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 20:41 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-04 21:11 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 21:32 ` kevin granade
2009-11-04 22:05 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 22:19 ` Marcin Letyns
2009-11-04 22:28 ` david
2009-11-04 22:43 ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2009-11-04 23:55 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-05 2:24 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-05 2:52 ` Mikulas Patocka
[not found] ` <f42384a10911050134t37a0a812hd85ff5541423dc9f@mail.gmail.com>
2009-11-05 9:35 ` Fwd: " Marcin Letyns
2009-11-10 11:40 ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-04 23:11 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-05 0:05 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-10 11:57 ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-04 17:36 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-04 20:28 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02 17:52 ` FatELF patches Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02 18:53 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-02 20:13 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-04 1:09 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-10 11:27 ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-10 12:40 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2009-11-10 13:00 ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-10 13:19 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-02 16:11 ` Chris Adams
2009-11-01 20:40 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-10 10:04 ` Enrico Weigelt
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-03 6:43 Eric Windisch
2009-11-03 11:21 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2009-11-10 10:10 ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-10 12:15 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2009-11-10 10:21 ` Enrico Weigelt
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