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From: Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] locking: Revert switching guards to _irq_{disable,enable}()
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2026 16:48:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ao4ps1OXRluyu_aa@tardis.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ao4lO7U7L-7Zice1@tardis.local>

On Tue, Aug 25, 2026 at 04:28:59PM -0700, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2026 at 12:59:25AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 24 2026 at 18:33, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 12:55:23PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> While the guards are properly nested, not all wrapped code is nice, as already
> > >> highlighted by that fair.c hunk.
> > >> 
> > >> Syzbot found another instance of this pattern in posix_timer_delete(), which
> > >> does spin_unlock_irq()+spin_lock_irq() inside scoped_guard(spinlock_irq).
> > >> Combined with this patch, that goes sideways most spectacular.
> > >> 

I'm not saying the posix_timer_delete() implementation has any problem,
but TBH allowing spin_unlock_irq()+spin_lock_irq() inside
scoped_guard(spinlock_irq) is questionable design, and can result into
foot-gun code like:

	scoped_guard(spinlock_irq) {
		...
		spin_unlock_irq();
		if (cond)
			return; // BOOM, double unlock
		spin_lock_irq();
	}

Sure, if handling carefully, it won't cause problem, but it undermines
the easy-to-use and less-err-prone features of scoped_guard().

Regards,
Boqun

> > >> Undo this change, until we've developed stronger tools / debug for such issues.
> > >> 
> > >
> > > Mainly hand-waving, but if we make _irq(), irqsave(), _disable()
> > > __acquires() different contexts, we may be able to catch these issues at
> > > compile time. I will explore a bit on this.
[...]

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-25 23:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-04 16:14 [PATCH v4 00/17] Refcounted interrupt disable and SpinLockIrq for Rust Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 01/17] preempt: Track NMI nesting to separate per-CPU counter Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Joel Fernandes
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 02/17] preempt: Introduce HARDIRQ_DISABLE_BITS Boqun Feng
2026-08-05  6:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-05  6:59     ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 03/17] preempt: Introduce __preempt_count_{sub,add}_return() Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 04/17] openrisc: Include <linux/cpumask.h> in smp.h Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Lyude Paul
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 05/17] irq & spin_lock: Add counted interrupt disabling/enabling Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 18:20   ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 18:26   ` [PATCH v4.1 " Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48     ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10  8:57     ` [tip: locking/core] irq,spin_lock: " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 20:51   ` [PATCH v4 05/17] irq & spin_lock: " Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-04 21:08     ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05  6:36       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-05  7:07         ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05  7:09           ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05  7:19             ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 13:53               ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 14:10                 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 14:20                   ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 14:56                     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 15:11                       ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 16:53                         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 17:38                           ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 18:07                       ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 06/17] irq: Add KUnit test for refcounted interrupt enable/disable Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Lyude Paul
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Lyude Paul
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 07/17] locking: Switch to _irq_{disable,enable}() variants in cleanup guards Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-24 10:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-24 10:55       ` [PATCH] locking: Revert switching guards to _irq_{disable,enable}() Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-24 11:01         ` [tip: locking/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-25  1:33         ` [PATCH] " Boqun Feng
2026-08-25 22:59           ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-25 23:28             ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-25 23:48               ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2026-08-26  1:33                 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27  8:30               ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 13:14                 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27 15:43                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 16:52                     ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27 18:15                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 19:41                         ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27 22:52                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-28  1:56                             ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-28  6:42                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-27 20:29                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 21:33                   ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-28  6:55                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-28  8:22                     ` David Laight
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 08/17] sched: Remove the unused preempt_offset parameter of __cant_sleep() Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 09/17] sched: Avoid signed comparison of preempt_count() in __cant_migrate() Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 10/17] preempt: Introduce HAS_SEPARATE_PREEMPT_RESCHED_BITS Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 20:11   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05  6:54     ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05  7:15       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05  7:27         ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-06  0:58       ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 21:09   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-04 23:14     ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 11/17] arm64: sched/preempt: Enable HAS_SEPARATE_PREEMPT_RESCHED_BITS Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 12/17] s390/preempt: " Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 20:27   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05  9:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-05 12:37       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Heiko Carstens
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Heiko Carstens
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 13/17] rust: Introduce interrupt module Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 14/17] rust: helper: Add spin_{un,}lock_irq_{enable,disable}() helpers Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 15/17] rust: sync: Use super::* in spinlock.rs Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 16/17] rust: sync: Add SpinLockIrq Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 17/17] rust: sync: Introduce SpinLockIrq::lock_with() and friends Boqun Feng

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