From: Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org,
x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] locking: Revert switching guards to _irq_{disable,enable}()
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2026 14:33:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <apCtEUnPzdCQVpIs@tardis.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875x0vfgtl.ffs@fw13>
On Thu, Aug 27, 2026 at 10:29:10PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27 2026 at 10:30, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 25 2026 at 16:28, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > So you can get away with:
> >
> > raw_local_irq_save(flags)
> > {
> > flags = count;
> > if (!count)
> > arch_local_irq_disable();
> > count++;
> > }
> >
> > raw_local_irq_restore(flags)
> > {
> > if (!(count = flags))
> > arch_local_irq_enable();
> > }
> >
> > raw_local_irq_disable()
> > {
> > arch_local_irq_disable();
> > count = 1;
> > }
> >
> > raw_local_irq_enable()
> > {
> > count = 0;
> > arch_local_irq_enable();
> > }
>
> Actually it can be done way simpler because the nasty case of
>
> scoped_guard(lock_irqsave, lock) {
> unlock_irq(lock);
> lock_irq(lock);
> }
>
> is only valid for a single lock guard, because if it's nested then the
> outer lock would lose the interrupt disabled protection. Anything else
> would be a bug on its own and would have long ago blown up in our face.
>
Right.
> So we can completely ignore flags.
>
> raw_local_irq_save(flags)
> {
> if (!count)
> arch_local_irq_disable();
> count++;
> }
>
> raw_local_irq_restore(flags)
> {
> if (!--count)
> arch_local_irq_enable();
> }
>
These are just local_interrupt_{disable,enable}() (replacing
arch_local_irq_save() with arch_local_irq_disable()) :)
> raw_local_irq_disable()
> {
> arch_local_irq_disable();
> count++;
> }
>
> raw_local_irq_enable()
> {
> count--;
> arch_local_irq_enable();
> }
>
> with a copious amount of debug machinery to catch any oddballs.
>
Ok, so brainstorm on the oddballs:
# 1: double disable
local_irq_disable();
local_irq_disable();
local_irq_enable();
# 2: double enable
local_irq_disable();
local_irq_enable();
local_irq_enable();
I think these mean we should probably do count = 1 and count = 0 in
irq_{enable,disable}() than count++ and count--?
# 3: only restore once
local_irq_save(flag1);
local_irq_save(flag2);
local_irq_restore(flag1);
# 4: keep restoring
local_irq_save(flag1);
local_irq_restore(flag1);
local_irq_restore(flag1);
these are a bit tricky, I guess we could only fix the users? But we
should not postpone the infrastructure because of these?
> Also note that this never uses irqsave/restore because historically that
> has been way slower than CLI/STI.
>
> A decade+ ago this used to be up to 30%, but micro architectures
> optimized for it. Still on a SKL it's ~14% and on a Zen3 ~8% slower.
>
Yes, if we go to the level to unify all irq disabling with counter
tracking then I think using arch_local_irq_disable() is possible and
makes a lot of senses.
Regards,
Boqun
> Thanks,
>
> tglx
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-27 21:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-04 16:14 [PATCH v4 00/17] Refcounted interrupt disable and SpinLockIrq for Rust Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 01/17] preempt: Track NMI nesting to separate per-CPU counter Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Joel Fernandes
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 02/17] preempt: Introduce HARDIRQ_DISABLE_BITS Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 6:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-05 6:59 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 03/17] preempt: Introduce __preempt_count_{sub,add}_return() Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 04/17] openrisc: Include <linux/cpumask.h> in smp.h Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Lyude Paul
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 05/17] irq & spin_lock: Add counted interrupt disabling/enabling Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 18:20 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 18:26 ` [PATCH v4.1 " Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10 8:57 ` [tip: locking/core] irq,spin_lock: " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 20:51 ` [PATCH v4 05/17] irq & spin_lock: " Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-04 21:08 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 6:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-05 7:07 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 7:09 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 7:19 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 13:53 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 14:10 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 14:20 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 14:56 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 15:11 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 16:53 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 17:38 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 18:07 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 06/17] irq: Add KUnit test for refcounted interrupt enable/disable Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Lyude Paul
2026-08-10 8:57 ` tip-bot2 for Lyude Paul
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 07/17] locking: Switch to _irq_{disable,enable}() variants in cleanup guards Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10 8:57 ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-24 10:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-24 10:55 ` [PATCH] locking: Revert switching guards to _irq_{disable,enable}() Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-24 11:01 ` [tip: locking/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-25 1:33 ` [PATCH] " Boqun Feng
2026-08-25 22:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-25 23:28 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-25 23:48 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-26 1:33 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27 8:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 13:14 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27 15:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 16:52 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27 18:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 19:41 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27 22:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-28 1:56 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-28 6:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-27 20:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 21:33 ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2026-08-28 6:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-28 8:22 ` David Laight
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 08/17] sched: Remove the unused preempt_offset parameter of __cant_sleep() Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10 8:57 ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 09/17] sched: Avoid signed comparison of preempt_count() in __cant_migrate() Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10 8:57 ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 10/17] preempt: Introduce HAS_SEPARATE_PREEMPT_RESCHED_BITS Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 20:11 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 6:54 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 7:15 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 7:27 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-06 0:58 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 21:09 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-04 23:14 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10 8:57 ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 11/17] arm64: sched/preempt: Enable HAS_SEPARATE_PREEMPT_RESCHED_BITS Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10 8:57 ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 12/17] s390/preempt: " Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 20:27 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 9:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-05 12:37 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Heiko Carstens
2026-08-10 8:57 ` tip-bot2 for Heiko Carstens
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 13/17] rust: Introduce interrupt module Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 14/17] rust: helper: Add spin_{un,}lock_irq_{enable,disable}() helpers Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 15/17] rust: sync: Use super::* in spinlock.rs Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 16/17] rust: sync: Add SpinLockIrq Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 17/17] rust: sync: Introduce SpinLockIrq::lock_with() and friends Boqun Feng
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