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From: Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] locking: Revert switching guards to _irq_{disable,enable}()
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2026 14:33:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <apCtEUnPzdCQVpIs@tardis.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875x0vfgtl.ffs@fw13>

On Thu, Aug 27, 2026 at 10:29:10PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27 2026 at 10:30, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 25 2026 at 16:28, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > So you can get away with:
> >
> > raw_local_irq_save(flags)
> > {
> > 	flags = count;
> > 	if (!count)
> >         	arch_local_irq_disable();
> >         count++;
> > }
> >
> > raw_local_irq_restore(flags)
> > {
> > 	if (!(count = flags))
> >         	arch_local_irq_enable();
> > }
> >
> > raw_local_irq_disable()
> > {
> >         arch_local_irq_disable();
> >         count = 1;
> > }
> >
> > raw_local_irq_enable()
> > {
> >         count = 0;
> >         arch_local_irq_enable();
> > }
> 
> Actually it can be done way simpler because the nasty case of
> 
>          scoped_guard(lock_irqsave, lock) {
>          	unlock_irq(lock);
>                 lock_irq(lock);
>          }
> 
> is only valid for a single lock guard, because if it's nested then the
> outer lock would lose the interrupt disabled protection. Anything else
> would be a bug on its own and would have long ago blown up in our face.
> 

Right.

> So we can completely ignore flags.
> 
> raw_local_irq_save(flags)
> {
>  	if (!count)
>          	arch_local_irq_disable();
>         count++;
> }
> 
> raw_local_irq_restore(flags)
> {
>  	if (!--count)
>          	arch_local_irq_enable();
> }
> 

These are just local_interrupt_{disable,enable}() (replacing
arch_local_irq_save() with arch_local_irq_disable()) :)

> raw_local_irq_disable()
> {
>          arch_local_irq_disable();
>          count++;
> }
> 
> raw_local_irq_enable()
> {
>          count--;
>          arch_local_irq_enable();
> }
> 
> with a copious amount of debug machinery to catch any oddballs.
> 

Ok, so brainstorm on the oddballs:

# 1: double disable

	local_irq_disable();
	local_irq_disable();
	local_irq_enable();

# 2: double enable

	local_irq_disable();
	local_irq_enable();
	local_irq_enable();

I think these mean we should probably do count = 1 and count = 0 in
irq_{enable,disable}() than count++ and count--?

# 3: only restore once

	local_irq_save(flag1);
	local_irq_save(flag2);
	local_irq_restore(flag1);

# 4: keep restoring

	local_irq_save(flag1);
	local_irq_restore(flag1);
	local_irq_restore(flag1);

these are a bit tricky, I guess we could only fix the users? But we
should not postpone the infrastructure because of these?

> Also note that this never uses irqsave/restore because historically that
> has been way slower than CLI/STI.
> 
> A decade+ ago this used to be up to 30%, but micro architectures
> optimized for it. Still on a SKL it's ~14% and on a Zen3 ~8% slower.
> 

Yes, if we go to the level to unify all irq disabling with counter
tracking then I think using arch_local_irq_disable() is possible and
makes a lot of senses.

Regards,
Boqun

> Thanks,
> 
>         tglx
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-27 21:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-04 16:14 [PATCH v4 00/17] Refcounted interrupt disable and SpinLockIrq for Rust Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 01/17] preempt: Track NMI nesting to separate per-CPU counter Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Joel Fernandes
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 02/17] preempt: Introduce HARDIRQ_DISABLE_BITS Boqun Feng
2026-08-05  6:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-05  6:59     ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 03/17] preempt: Introduce __preempt_count_{sub,add}_return() Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 04/17] openrisc: Include <linux/cpumask.h> in smp.h Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Lyude Paul
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 05/17] irq & spin_lock: Add counted interrupt disabling/enabling Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 18:20   ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 18:26   ` [PATCH v4.1 " Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48     ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10  8:57     ` [tip: locking/core] irq,spin_lock: " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 20:51   ` [PATCH v4 05/17] irq & spin_lock: " Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-04 21:08     ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05  6:36       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-05  7:07         ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05  7:09           ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05  7:19             ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 13:53               ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 14:10                 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 14:20                   ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 14:56                     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 15:11                       ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 16:53                         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 17:38                           ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 18:07                       ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 06/17] irq: Add KUnit test for refcounted interrupt enable/disable Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Lyude Paul
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Lyude Paul
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 07/17] locking: Switch to _irq_{disable,enable}() variants in cleanup guards Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-24 10:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-24 10:55       ` [PATCH] locking: Revert switching guards to _irq_{disable,enable}() Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-24 11:01         ` [tip: locking/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-25  1:33         ` [PATCH] " Boqun Feng
2026-08-25 22:59           ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-25 23:28             ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-25 23:48               ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-26  1:33                 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27  8:30               ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 13:14                 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27 15:43                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 16:52                     ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27 18:15                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 19:41                         ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27 22:52                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-28  1:56                             ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-28  6:42                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-27 20:29                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 21:33                   ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2026-08-28  6:55                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-28  8:22                     ` David Laight
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 08/17] sched: Remove the unused preempt_offset parameter of __cant_sleep() Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 09/17] sched: Avoid signed comparison of preempt_count() in __cant_migrate() Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 10/17] preempt: Introduce HAS_SEPARATE_PREEMPT_RESCHED_BITS Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 20:11   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05  6:54     ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05  7:15       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05  7:27         ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-06  0:58       ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 21:09   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-04 23:14     ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 11/17] arm64: sched/preempt: Enable HAS_SEPARATE_PREEMPT_RESCHED_BITS Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 12/17] s390/preempt: " Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 20:27   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05  9:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-05 12:37       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Heiko Carstens
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Heiko Carstens
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 13/17] rust: Introduce interrupt module Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 14/17] rust: helper: Add spin_{un,}lock_irq_{enable,disable}() helpers Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 15/17] rust: sync: Use super::* in spinlock.rs Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 16/17] rust: sync: Add SpinLockIrq Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 17/17] rust: sync: Introduce SpinLockIrq::lock_with() and friends Boqun Feng

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