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From: Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	 David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	 Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	 Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>,
	 Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>,
	 Vipin Sharma <vipinsh@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 12/18] iommu/vt-d: Handle reattach of the restored domain
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2026 16:15:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <apGpHv8vy4SWIEaV@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260828143546.GC3769797@ziepe.ca>

On Fri, Aug 28, 2026 at 11:35:46AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>On Fri, Aug 28, 2026 at 09:55:18AM +0800, Baolu Lu wrote:
>> That looks reasonable to me. I have no concerns about keeping ATS
>> enabled on preserved devices across kexec reboot, as long as the
>> software state is synchronized in the new kernel.
>
>The new kernel should issue an ATC flush when it changes away from the
>inherented domain.

Yes, I will make sure this happens when we do the retrieval side. It
should mostly work well with the existing replace machinery.
>
>> By the way, is disabling ATS an option?
>
>No, many devices require ATS.

Agreed on the ATS requirement. I had Nicolin's patch series for CXL
devices in mind here.
>
>It is not that ATS and PRI are coupled, there are good reasons to do
>ATS to pinned memory too.
>
>PRI is a PITA, I continue to think PRI through the iommu was a
>mistake. Devices that have device-specific PRI handling are fine
>because that all lives in the VM. Devices relying on SMMU PRI
>forwarding must also somehow not loose any PRI events across the kexec
>and must ultimately inject all of them into the VM.
>
>> The current design already requires disabling PCI/PRI during kexec,
>> right?
>
>That is also not OK, but there certainly is a useful universe of VMs
>that might pretend to use PRI but actually only use device specific
>fault delivery.
>
>So ignoring PRI for the moment is possibly OK. Someone using this
>should understand what VM shapes thay are making and if that
>limitation is OK.

Agreed. To avoid the massive complexity of handling PRI events across
the kexec right now, I explicitly evaluated this during v4 development
and marked PRI as unsupported to limit the scope for now.
>
>Jason

Thanks,
Sami

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-28 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-08  2:27 [PATCH v4 00/18] iommu: Add live update state preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-08  2:27 ` [PATCH v4 01/18] memfd: export memfd_get_seals() Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-08  2:27 ` [PATCH v4 02/18] iommu: Implement IOMMU Live update FLB callbacks Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-08  2:27 ` [PATCH v4 03/18] iommu/pages: Add APIs to preserve/unpreserve/restore iommu pages Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-08  2:27 ` [PATCH v4 04/18] iommupt: Implement preserve/unpreserve/restore callbacks Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-08  2:27 ` [PATCH v4 05/18] iommu: Implement IOMMU domain preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-08  2:27 ` [PATCH v4 06/18] iommu: Implement device and IOMMU HW preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-08  2:27 ` [PATCH v4 07/18] iommu/vt-d: Implement device and iommu preserve/unpreserve ops Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-26  7:10   ` Baolu Lu
2026-08-26 20:46     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-08  2:27 ` [PATCH v4 08/18] iommu/vt-d: Clear unpreserved context entries during shutdown Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-26  8:05   ` Baolu Lu
2026-08-26 12:30     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-08-26 20:37       ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-26 20:30     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-27  6:09       ` Baolu Lu
2026-08-27 18:57         ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-08  2:27 ` [PATCH v4 09/18] iommu: Add APIs to get iommu and device preserved state Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-12  6:29   ` Ankit Soni
2026-08-12 23:23     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-08  2:27 ` [PATCH v4 10/18] iommu/vt-d: Restore IOMMU state and reclaimed domain ids Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-27  7:22   ` Baolu Lu
2026-08-27 18:47     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-28  1:36       ` Baolu Lu
2026-08-08  2:27 ` [PATCH v4 11/18] iommu: Restore and reattach preserved domains to devices Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-14 16:59   ` Ankit Soni
2026-08-14 19:46     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-17 15:32       ` Ankit Soni
2026-08-08  2:27 ` [PATCH v4 12/18] iommu/vt-d: Handle reattach of the restored domain Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-27  8:12   ` Baolu Lu
2026-08-27 17:52     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-28  1:42       ` Baolu Lu
2026-08-28  1:55       ` Baolu Lu
2026-08-28 14:35         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-28 16:15           ` Samiullah Khawaja [this message]
2026-08-08  2:27 ` [PATCH v4 13/18] iommu/vt-d: Preserve PASID table of preserved device Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-08  2:27 ` [PATCH v4 14/18] iommufd: Implement ioctl to mark HWPT for preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-08  2:27 ` [PATCH v4 15/18] iommufd: Persist iommu hardware pagetables for live update Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-08  2:27 ` [PATCH v4 16/18] iommufd: Add APIs to preserve/unpreserve a vfio cdev Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-08  2:27 ` [PATCH v4 17/18] vfio/pci: Preserve the iommufd state of the " Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-08  2:27 ` [PATCH v4 18/18] iommufd/selftest: Add test to verify iommufd preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-26  8:12 ` [PATCH v4 00/18] iommu: Add live update state preservation David Woodhouse

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