From: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
To: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/2] sched: Enable preferred SMT siblings on NVIDIA Olympus
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2026 08:41:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqD_gpvJOFqcmlmg@gpd4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ed191145-d58e-4463-8f54-a7bb86cce646@amd.com>
On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 12:06:06PM +0530, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
> Hello Andrea,
>
> On 9/9/2026 11:56 AM, Andrea Righi wrote:
> > NVIDIA Olympus implements SMT with two symmetric processing elements (PEs).
> > When only one PE is active, the core operates in single-thread mode and
> > that PE can use the full core resources. When both PEs are active, the core
> > operates in two-thread mode and the PEs share those resources. This
> > behavior is common to SMT implementations, but Olympus is particularly
> > sensitive to brief sibling activations because returning from two-thread
> > mode to single-thread mode after a sibling becomes idle is not immediate.
> > As described by commit 293f9611ae735 ("sched/fair: Prefer fully idle cores
> > for NOHZ balancing"):
> >
> > Briefly activating an otherwise idle sibling can reduce the performance
> > available to the other sibling and this effect does not necessarily end
> > once the activated sibling becomes idle: after the ILB finishes and its
> > CPU enters WFI, full single-thread performance is restored only after the
> > sibling has remained idle for a qualification interval (10 Ki cycles on
> > the tested Vera system).
> >
> > That change prevents the NOHZ idle load balancer from unnecessarily waking
> > a sibling of a busy PE. However, ordinary task placement can still select
> > either sibling of an idle core and repeated changes of the active PE can
> > keep Olympus cores in two-thread mode despite little or no useful overlap
> > between the siblings.
> >
> > This series makes PE0 the preferred sibling of an Olympus core using
> > SD_ASYM_PACKING and teaches the fair scheduler's idle-selection paths to
> > honor asymmetric SMT priority. The scheduler first selects a candidate CPU
> > and core according to its existing placement and capacity rules, then
> > chooses the highest-priority available sibling within that core. The
> > generic scheduler behavior is enabled only when an architecture supplies
> > an SD_ASYM_PACKING SMT domain.
> >
> > PE0 and PE1 have equal steady-state capacity, the preference does not
> > identify a faster PE. PE0 is used only as a canonical choice when both
> > siblings are available. Consistently selecting the same sibling avoids
> > alternating the active PE across wakeups, lets PE1 remain idle for longer,
> > and allows more cores to remain in, or return to, full-resource
> > single-thread mode.
> >
> > The series was tested on a two-node Vera system using an 88-thread
> > single-precision GEMM on the 88 physical cores of NUMA node 0.
> >
> > With the workload allowed to choose either sibling of every core, observed
> > throughput improved from approximately 9.4 TFLOP/s on the baseline kernel
> > to approximately 10.1 TFLOP/s with this series applied. Repeated runs also
> > became more predictable because the workload consistently settled on PE0
> > while PE1 remained quiet.
> >
> > Changes in v5:
> > - Remove the redundant olympus_prefer_pe0 state (K Prateek Nayak)
> > - Link to v4: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20260908082345.103087-1-arighi@nvidia.com
>
> My replies failed to keep up with your speed on iterations :-)
Haha, sorry about that! :D
>
> Since this is same as v4 and I had taken it for a spin on a
> x86 and an ARM64 server, feel free to include:
>
> Reviewed-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
> Tested-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
And thanks!
-Andrea
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-09 6:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-09 6:26 Andrea Righi
2026-09-09 6:26 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: topology: Prefer PE0 on NVIDIA Olympus SMT cores Andrea Righi
2026-09-09 15:19 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-09-09 16:17 ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-10 10:11 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-09-11 9:11 ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-11 14:15 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-09-09 15:34 ` Will Deacon
2026-09-09 16:07 ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-10 8:53 ` Will Deacon
2026-09-11 6:50 ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-09 6:26 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Honor asymmetric SMT priority in idle selection Andrea Righi
2026-09-11 14:11 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-09-09 6:36 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] sched: Enable preferred SMT siblings on NVIDIA Olympus K Prateek Nayak
2026-09-09 6:41 ` Andrea Righi [this message]
2026-09-09 13:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 15:36 ` Will Deacon
2026-09-09 21:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
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