From: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
To: Kayra Cizmeci <kayracizmeci@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] sched/cache: Keep nr_pref_llc_running in the runnable domain
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2026 10:02:12 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqdVpO66OfmHvvqB@chenyu-dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260910220331.1209469-1-kayracizmeci@gmail.com>
Hi Kayra,
On Fri, Sep 11, 2026 at 01:03:30AM +0300, Kayra Cizmeci wrote:
> Hello Tim,
>
> > So moving the accounting next to (or after) the h_nr_runnable update
> > would make task_pref_llc_runnable() return false and skip the
> > decrement, leaving nr_pref_llc_running too high.
>
> What I really wanted wasn't getting the accounting next to or after the h_nr_runnable.
> If we are updating h_nr_runnable in some way that means we don't need
> its check since it's already getting updated. And if it's getting updated
> that means on that branch we know how our check should behave since we
> are a subset of it. We can skip the delayed check on that way since we are
> trying to behave as h_nr_runnable's subset.
>
> > if (entity_is_task(se))
> > pref_llc_running_dec(...); /* sched_delayed still 0 */
> > se->sched_delayed = 1;
> > ...
> > for_each_sched_entity(se)
> > cfs_rq->h_nr_runnable--; /* sched_delayed already 1 */
>
> For example:
>
> In this code the h_nr_runnable is updated the same way regarding what is sched_delayed.
> That means if we want to behave as a subset of it, we don't need the check delayed,
> since we check the delayed to be a subset but if h_nr_runnable is decreasing/increasing
> we should look into our checks.
>
I had a try according to your suggestion. It seems that the code becomes more complex
and brings more headache :-( due to several corner cases. The current version is a simpler
version with less code IMO. But I agree it looks a little hard to catch up with, so I added
some comments around account_llc_dequeue() and adjusted the code sequence of clear_delayed()
to make it easier to understand. Tim, could you please help check if this makes sense?
diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
index e64d9ad7a108..89311bbadfac 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
@@ -1609,8 +1609,58 @@ static void account_llc_dequeue(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p)
if (p->pref_llc_queued) {
/*
* Skipped if still delayed (set_delayed() already removed it);
- * clearing pref_llc_queued below also stops clear_delayed()
- * from re-adding it.
+ *
+ * The nr_pref_llc_running varies with h_nr_runnable, it involves
+ * set_delayed(), clear_delayed(), account_llc_enqueued() and account_llc_dequeue().
+ * The following shows two typical cases of how nr_pref_llc_running is maintained
+ * during enqueue/dequeue.
+ *
+ * case 1 - wakeup a delayed task
+ *
+ * CPU0 CPU1
+ * __dequeue_task [fake dequeue]
+ * set_delayed
+ * rq0->nr_pref_llc_running--
+ * p->se.sched_delayed = 1
+ *
+ * try_to_wake_up(p)
+ * enqueue_task_fair
+ * requeue_delayed_entity
+ * clear_delayed
+ * rq0->nr_pref_llc_running++
+ *
+ *
+ * case 2 - LB for delayed task
+ *
+ * CPU0 CPU1
+ * __dequeue_task [fake dequeue]
+ * set_delayed
+ * rq0->nr_pref_llc_running--
+ * p->se.sched_delayed = 1
+ *
+ *
+ * --------- load balance ---------
+ * detach_task(p, rq0, migrate_load)
+ * account_llc_dequeue
+ * ** DO-NOT-DECREASE **
+ * rq0->nr_pref_llc_running
+ *
+ * attach_task(p, rq1)
+ * account_llc_enqueue
+ * ** DO-NOT-INCREASE **
+ * rq1->nr_pref_llc_running
+ *
+ * pick_eevdf
+ * __dequeue_task [real dequeue]
+ * account_llc_dequeue(DEQUEUE_DELAYED)
+ * ** DO-NOT-DECREASE **
+ * rq1->nr_pref_llc_running
+ * p->pref_llc_queued = 0;
+ *
+ * clear_delayed
+ * p->se.sched_delayed = 0;
+ * ** DO-NOT-INCREASE as pref_llc_queued=0 **
+ * rq1->nr_pref_llc_running
*/
pref_llc_running_dec(rq, p);
/*
@@ -6415,23 +6465,18 @@ static __always_inline void return_cfs_rq_runtime(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq);
static void set_delayed(struct sched_entity *se)
{
- /*
- * Drop a task leaving the runnable set. Must run before sched_delayed
- * is set, or task_pref_llc_runnable() would already exclude it;
- * clear_delayed() mirrors this after clearing the flag.
- */
- if (entity_is_task(se))
- pref_llc_running_dec(rq_of(cfs_rq_of(se)), task_of(se));
-
- se->sched_delayed = 1;
-
/*
* Delayed se of cfs_rq have no tasks queued on them.
* Do not adjust h_nr_runnable since __dequeue_task()
* will account it for blocked tasks.
*/
- if (!entity_is_task(se))
+ if (!entity_is_task(se)) {
+ se->sched_delayed = 1;
return;
+ }
+
+ pref_llc_running_dec(rq_of(cfs_rq_of(se)), task_of(se));
+ se->sched_delayed = 1;
for_each_sched_entity(se) {
struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq = cfs_rq_of(se);
--
2.43.0
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-14 2:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-10 17:46 [PATCH 0/4] sched/cache: Fixes for cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-09-10 17:46 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched/cache: Keep nr_pref_llc_running in the runnable domain Tim Chen
2026-09-10 18:33 ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-10 20:46 ` Tim Chen
2026-09-10 22:03 ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-14 2:02 ` Chen Yu [this message]
2026-09-14 5:27 ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-14 22:25 ` Tim Chen
2026-09-10 22:48 ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-10 17:46 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched/cache: Honor migrate_llc_task semantics in active load balance Tim Chen
2026-09-10 17:46 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched/cache: Decouple sched_cache_group from mm Tim Chen
2026-09-10 17:46 ` [PATCH 4/4] sched/cache: Introduce task_struct->sched_cache_grp Tim Chen
2026-09-10 19:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-10 22:50 ` Tim Chen
2026-09-14 14:34 ` Chen Yu
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