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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
Cc: "Chris Li" <chrisl@kernel.org>, "Nhat Pham" <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
	"Rik van Riel" <riel@surriel.com>,
	"Baoquan He" <baoquan.he@linux.dev>,
	"Kairui Song" <kasong@tencent.com>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Yosry Ahmed" <yosry@kernel.org>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@kernel.org>,
	"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	"Kemeng Shi" <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
	"Barry Song" <baohua@kernel.org>,
	"YoungJun Park" <youngjun.park@lge.com>,
	"Chengming Zhou" <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
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	"Gregory Price" <gourry@gourry.net>,
	"Wenchao Hao" <haowenchao22@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Hugh Dickins" <hughd@google.com>,
	"Baolin Wang" <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>, "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
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	"Linux Memory Management List" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
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	"open list:CONTROL GROUP - MEMORY RESOURCE CONTROLLER (MEMCG)"
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	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Joshua Hahn" <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Path forward for Virtualized Swap?
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2026 12:36:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <arbGo3QTYlUD5cVW@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <arUcil9kxUPiymXI@KASONG-MC4>

On Fri, Sep 25, 2026 at 09:15:17PM +0800, Kairui Song wrote:
[...]

Thanks Kairui for very clear description of what you want and looking for.
After reading your email, I think you want memsw support in v2. Currently you
somehow are implementing memsw using memory.current and memory.swap.current.
(I am assuming you need to subtract swapcache to avoid double counting.)
To conclude, you want to use vswap (the aim is it to default) but you still want
your way to implementing memsw keep working.

Please correct me if I missed something.

I am wondering if you really want memsw, why not propose memsw. Someone from
tencent proposed memsw [1] previously, so why not continue that effort? I am
pretty sure folks from Google (people who actually work on prodkernel there)
will be happy to collaborate with you on that.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/20250319064148.774406-1-jingxiangzeng.cas@gmail.com/

Setting aside the memsw conversation, I think we should go back to the actual
vswap conversation and list down what we agree on and where we still need
discussion and decision. (I will take a stab at it and start a separate thread
but still on this email and will use AI for the summary.)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-09-25 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-04 21:14 Nhat Pham
2026-09-07  5:51 ` Kairui Song
2026-09-08 16:36   ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-11 16:09     ` Kairui Song
2026-09-11 16:57       ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-11 18:14         ` Kairui Song
2026-09-11 19:03           ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-12  8:47             ` Kairui Song
2026-09-14 16:49               ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-08 18:30   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-09 16:41     ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-09 17:47       ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-12  9:00       ` Kairui Song
2026-09-12 11:51         ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-19  7:23           ` Chris Li
2026-09-20  1:06             ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21  0:18               ` Chris Li
2026-09-21  0:35                 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21  0:53                   ` Chris Li
2026-09-14 16:10         ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-10 23:27   ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-07 11:30 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-08 16:45   ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-10 10:56     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 16:22       ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-10 17:57         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-11 16:20         ` Kairui Song
2026-09-11 16:56           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-14 15:00           ` Baoquan He
2026-09-19  6:50             ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 18:55               ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-22 13:38                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 14:43                   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-22 14:56                     ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:07                       ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-22 15:30                         ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:45                           ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-23  6:44                             ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:46                           ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-22 15:28                       ` Baoquan He
2026-09-25 18:47                         ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-10  7:09 ` Baoquan He
2026-09-10 16:39   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-11 13:06     ` Baoquan He
2026-09-11 16:45       ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-15  5:48         ` Baoquan He
2026-09-15  6:44           ` Baoquan He
2026-09-19  6:55             ` Chris Li
2026-09-19 16:15               ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-19 21:21                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-19 22:50                   ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21  0:13                     ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 17:54                       ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-23  7:44                         ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 16:30                           ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-24 11:27                             ` Chris Li
2026-09-24 13:15                               ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-25 13:15                           ` Kairui Song
2026-09-25 15:41                             ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-25 19:21                               ` Kairui Song
2026-09-25 20:20                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-25 16:11                             ` Gregory Price
2026-09-25 20:44                               ` Kairui Song
2026-09-25 21:30                                 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-25 21:53                                   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-25 16:54                             ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-25 20:26                               ` Kairui Song
2026-09-25 19:36                             ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2026-09-25 20:20                               ` Kairui Song
2026-09-19  7:07           ` Chris Li
2026-09-10 17:03   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-11 12:27     ` Baoquan He
2026-09-11 16:21       ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-19  8:45     ` Chris Li
2026-09-19 16:08       ` Gregory Price
2026-09-19 19:02         ` Chris Li
2026-09-20  1:14           ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-20  1:53           ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21  9:43             ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 12:53               ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21 16:11                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 17:14                   ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-22 17:21                     ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-23  7:20                       ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 17:31                     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-23  7:32                       ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 13:55                         ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-21 14:06               ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 16:15                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 15:16               ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 16:31                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 16:36                   ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 18:10                     ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 18:52                       ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-22 13:32                         ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 14:59                           ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-22 15:23                             ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:43                               ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-23  6:10                                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:48                               ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-23  7:00                                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 14:21                                   ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-22 17:32                               ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-23  7:37                                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 14:11                                   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-23 15:39                                   ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-22 15:20                           ` Gregory Price
2026-09-22 15:43                             ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:52                               ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-23  7:10                                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 12:52                                   ` Klara Modin
2026-09-23 15:43                                     ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-23 17:26                                       ` Klara Modin
2026-09-24  5:51                                     ` Baoquan He
2026-09-24  7:20                                       ` Klara Modin
2026-09-24  7:53                                         ` Baoquan He
2026-09-21 10:01           ` Kairui Song
2026-09-21 13:27             ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21 15:27               ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 15:48                 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21 16:32               ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 17:02                 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-23  9:39                   ` Baoquan He
2026-09-23 12:11                     ` Gregory Price
2026-09-24 11:02                     ` Chris Li
2026-09-24 14:18                       ` Gregory Price
2026-09-23 14:34               ` Kairui Song
2026-09-21 18:11             ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-22 17:16           ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-10 17:16   ` Nhat Pham

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