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From: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
To: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
	Daniel Mentz <danielmentz@google.com>,
	Ashish Mhetre <amhetre@nvidia.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>, Radu Rendec <radu@rendec.net>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	rafael@kernel.org, Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	driver-core@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 11/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add CMDQ_PROD_STOP_FLAG to gate CMDQ submissions
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2026 08:06:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <atXPdbcX0XADEdh7@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <atO7jTV+XNReShT+@nvidia.com>

On Sat, Oct 17, 2026 at 11:16:45AM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2026 at 02:49:12PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 06, 2026 at 10:26:41AM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > > pci_dev_reset_iommu_prepare/done() pair (with slight refactoring) in EP's
> > > > suspend/resume?
> > > 
> > > That sounds right to me, though a different API for suspend/resume
> > > will be required. And call them in pci_pm_runtime_suspend/resume()
> > > maybe.
> > > 
> > > Jason, how do you think about this?
> > 
> > Maybe lets just start by refusing power management when ATS is on? For
> > PCIe devices too?
> > 
> > It isn't just ARM that has this issue, every iommu is busted if you
> > suspend the PCI device while an ATS domain is still active..
> 
> So, should we put that refuse guard in pci_pm_runtime_suspend()?
> 
> I am thinking about splitting the iommu and pci patches out of my
> smmmuv3_atc_timeout series. They could be get merged alone.
> 
> Then, we add a new API for pci_pm_runtime_suspend/resume() with a
> new BLOCKED_SUSPEND reason in the list:

The guard doesn't sound too bad, but what if we refactor the reset APIs
instead and use them from the PCI core to disable ATS + flush the ATC
right before the EP suspends, as discussed earlier? That'd fix it for
every IOMMU without taking PM away from anyone.

FWIW, AFAICT VT-d and AMD-Vi already enable ATS for ATS-capable devices
attached to the default DMA domain, so a blanket refusal might end up
disabling RPM for some internal devices (e.g. dGPUs / NVMe) that rely on
it today.

On the PCI side, I could roughly:

  - Base on Nicolin's split out iommu/pci patches (blocked reason list)
  - Add a suspend flavour of pci_dev_reset_iommu_prepare/done() with a
    BLOCKED_SUSPEND reason, i.e. RID/PASIDs parked on the blocking
    domain, group->domain retained (so dma_map/unmap keep working),
    ATS-capable devices only
  - Call prepare() in pci_pm_runtime_suspend() after the driver's
    callback but before D3, and done() in pci_pm_runtime_resume() after
    D0 + pci_restore_state() but before the driver's callback. Same for
    the system sleep (noirq) paths
  - Keep the guard only as a fallback, i.e. -EBUSY the suspend if
    prepare() fails

That flushes the ATC while the EP can still respond and stops any new
ATC_INVs to it. On the SMMU side, we'd then never see a suspended ATS
master with ATS still enabled, so a WARN_ON_ONCE() at suspend would do.

WDYT?

Thanks,
Praan

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-19  8:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-29  3:44 [PATCH v11 00/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement Runtime/System Sleep ops Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29  3:44 ` [PATCH v11 01/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Refactor arm_smmu_setup_irqs Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-07 14:06   ` Will Deacon
2026-09-29  3:44 ` [PATCH v11 02/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add Q_POS() macro Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29  3:44 ` [PATCH v11 03/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add arm_smmu_drain_queue() helper Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-30 18:24   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-30 20:17     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29  3:44 ` [PATCH v11 04/16] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add a helper to drain VCMDQs Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29  3:44 ` [PATCH v11 05/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add a helper to drain cmd queues Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29  3:45 ` [PATCH v11 06/16] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Restore PROD and CONS after resume Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29  3:45 ` [PATCH v11 07/16] genirq/msi: Cache MSI message in irq_chip_write_msi_msg() Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-14 21:52   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-10-19  8:18     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29  3:45 ` [PATCH v11 08/16] genirq/msi: Provide msi_device_domain_restore_msi_msgs() Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-14 21:58   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-10-19  8:19     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29  3:45 ` [PATCH v11 09/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Restore MSI config on resume Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-07 14:07   ` Will Deacon
2026-09-29  3:45 ` [PATCH v11 10/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Factor out arm_smmu_handle_gerror() Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-30 18:34   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-30 20:00     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-30 20:12       ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-30 20:03     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-07 14:07   ` Will Deacon
2026-09-29  3:45 ` [PATCH v11 11/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add CMDQ_PROD_STOP_FLAG to gate CMDQ submissions Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-30 20:33   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-01  5:40     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-01 18:03       ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-02 16:47         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-02 21:11           ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-06 17:26             ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-17 17:49               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-17 18:16                 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-19  8:06                   ` Pranjal Shrivastava [this message]
2026-10-19  8:02               ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-07 14:08   ` Will Deacon
2026-10-13 11:35     ` Robin Murphy
2026-10-19  8:28       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-19  8:24     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-19  8:25     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29  3:45 ` [PATCH v11 12/16] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add a helper to quiesce VCMDQs Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-30 19:02   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-30 19:57     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-30 20:03       ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-29  3:45 ` [PATCH v11 13/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement pm_runtime & system sleep ops Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-01 20:22   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-07 14:08   ` Will Deacon
2026-09-29  3:45 ` [PATCH v11 14/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Enable pm_runtime and setup devlinks Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29  3:45 ` [PATCH v11 15/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Invoke pm_runtime before hw access Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29  3:45 ` [PATCH v11 16/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add KUnit unit tests for Runtime PM Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-01 19:12   ` Nicolin Chen

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