From: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
To: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
iommu@lists.linux.dev, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
Daniel Mentz <danielmentz@google.com>,
Ashish Mhetre <amhetre@nvidia.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>, Radu Rendec <radu@rendec.net>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
rafael@kernel.org, Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
driver-core@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 11/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add CMDQ_PROD_STOP_FLAG to gate CMDQ submissions
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2026 08:06:13 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <atXPdbcX0XADEdh7@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <atO7jTV+XNReShT+@nvidia.com>
On Sat, Oct 17, 2026 at 11:16:45AM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2026 at 02:49:12PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 06, 2026 at 10:26:41AM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > > pci_dev_reset_iommu_prepare/done() pair (with slight refactoring) in EP's
> > > > suspend/resume?
> > >
> > > That sounds right to me, though a different API for suspend/resume
> > > will be required. And call them in pci_pm_runtime_suspend/resume()
> > > maybe.
> > >
> > > Jason, how do you think about this?
> >
> > Maybe lets just start by refusing power management when ATS is on? For
> > PCIe devices too?
> >
> > It isn't just ARM that has this issue, every iommu is busted if you
> > suspend the PCI device while an ATS domain is still active..
>
> So, should we put that refuse guard in pci_pm_runtime_suspend()?
>
> I am thinking about splitting the iommu and pci patches out of my
> smmmuv3_atc_timeout series. They could be get merged alone.
>
> Then, we add a new API for pci_pm_runtime_suspend/resume() with a
> new BLOCKED_SUSPEND reason in the list:
The guard doesn't sound too bad, but what if we refactor the reset APIs
instead and use them from the PCI core to disable ATS + flush the ATC
right before the EP suspends, as discussed earlier? That'd fix it for
every IOMMU without taking PM away from anyone.
FWIW, AFAICT VT-d and AMD-Vi already enable ATS for ATS-capable devices
attached to the default DMA domain, so a blanket refusal might end up
disabling RPM for some internal devices (e.g. dGPUs / NVMe) that rely on
it today.
On the PCI side, I could roughly:
- Base on Nicolin's split out iommu/pci patches (blocked reason list)
- Add a suspend flavour of pci_dev_reset_iommu_prepare/done() with a
BLOCKED_SUSPEND reason, i.e. RID/PASIDs parked on the blocking
domain, group->domain retained (so dma_map/unmap keep working),
ATS-capable devices only
- Call prepare() in pci_pm_runtime_suspend() after the driver's
callback but before D3, and done() in pci_pm_runtime_resume() after
D0 + pci_restore_state() but before the driver's callback. Same for
the system sleep (noirq) paths
- Keep the guard only as a fallback, i.e. -EBUSY the suspend if
prepare() fails
That flushes the ATC while the EP can still respond and stops any new
ATC_INVs to it. On the SMMU side, we'd then never see a suspended ATS
master with ATS still enabled, so a WARN_ON_ONCE() at suspend would do.
WDYT?
Thanks,
Praan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-19 8:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-29 3:44 [PATCH v11 00/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement Runtime/System Sleep ops Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v11 01/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Refactor arm_smmu_setup_irqs Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-07 14:06 ` Will Deacon
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v11 02/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add Q_POS() macro Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v11 03/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add arm_smmu_drain_queue() helper Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-30 18:24 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-30 20:17 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v11 04/16] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add a helper to drain VCMDQs Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v11 05/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add a helper to drain cmd queues Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29 3:45 ` [PATCH v11 06/16] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Restore PROD and CONS after resume Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29 3:45 ` [PATCH v11 07/16] genirq/msi: Cache MSI message in irq_chip_write_msi_msg() Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-14 21:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-10-19 8:18 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29 3:45 ` [PATCH v11 08/16] genirq/msi: Provide msi_device_domain_restore_msi_msgs() Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-14 21:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-10-19 8:19 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29 3:45 ` [PATCH v11 09/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Restore MSI config on resume Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-07 14:07 ` Will Deacon
2026-09-29 3:45 ` [PATCH v11 10/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Factor out arm_smmu_handle_gerror() Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-30 18:34 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-30 20:00 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-30 20:12 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-30 20:03 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-07 14:07 ` Will Deacon
2026-09-29 3:45 ` [PATCH v11 11/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add CMDQ_PROD_STOP_FLAG to gate CMDQ submissions Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-30 20:33 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-01 5:40 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-01 18:03 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-02 16:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-02 21:11 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-06 17:26 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-17 17:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-17 18:16 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-19 8:06 ` Pranjal Shrivastava [this message]
2026-10-19 8:02 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-07 14:08 ` Will Deacon
2026-10-13 11:35 ` Robin Murphy
2026-10-19 8:28 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-19 8:24 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-19 8:25 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29 3:45 ` [PATCH v11 12/16] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add a helper to quiesce VCMDQs Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-30 19:02 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-30 19:57 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-30 20:03 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-29 3:45 ` [PATCH v11 13/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement pm_runtime & system sleep ops Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-01 20:22 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-07 14:08 ` Will Deacon
2026-09-29 3:45 ` [PATCH v11 14/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Enable pm_runtime and setup devlinks Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29 3:45 ` [PATCH v11 15/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Invoke pm_runtime before hw access Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-09-29 3:45 ` [PATCH v11 16/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add KUnit unit tests for Runtime PM Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-01 19:12 ` Nicolin Chen
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