From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Stian Halseth <stian@itx.no>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Paul Menzel <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
regressions@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/cputime: Don't warn when the tick period starts after idle exit
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2026 23:05:36 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <auZmMBmheFxH5Dlz@pavilion.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68f0450d47577dc4f83d32e5b0211c97ee8d24bd.camel@itx.no>
Le Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 06:37:22PM +0100, Stian Halseth a écrit :
> Hi Frederic,
>
> On Wed, 2026-10-28 at 15:14 +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> >
> > So let me depict that:
> >
> > // clocksource = jiffies ?
> > // clockevent = lapic ?
> > tick_setup_device()
> > tick_next_period = ktime_get() // jiffies_to_nsecs(jiffies)
> >
> > tick_periodic()
> > tick_next_period += TICK_NSECS
> > jiffies++ // ktime_get() == tick_next_period
> >
> > // jiffies > tsc_early
> > clocksource_select()
> >
> > tick_periodic()
> > //one tick has passed, so ktime_get() == jiffies + 1
>
> Here is where it goes wrong. One tick has passed in real time, but not
> in ktime. The switch happened d after the last tick, jiffies never
> counted that d, and the tsc only counts from the switch on, so here
> ktime_get() == jiffies + TICK_NSEC - d.
Ok now that makes sense.
>
> > tick_next_period += TICK_NSECS
> > jiffies++ // ktime_get() == tick_next_period == jiffies
>
> So after this, tick_next_period == ktime_get() + d.
>
> The same thing as a diagram:
>
> // jiffies -> tsc-early, d after the last tick
> clocksource_select()
> ktime_get() == last tick // the d is not in there
>
> tick_periodic() // TICK_NSEC after the last tick
> ktime_get() == last tick + TICK_NSEC - d
> tick_next_period += TICK_NSEC // == last tick + TICK_NSEC
> // tick_next_period == ktime_get() + d
>
> From a measurement I did with a QEMU guest: at the switch both were
> 329532326. At the next tick ktime_get() was 331212239, 1.68 ms later,
> so d was 2.32 ms, and tick_next_period became 333532326, 2.32 ms
> ahead.
I see now.
Thanks
--
Frederic Weisbecker
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-31 22:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-07 14:29 [PATCH v3] sched/cputime: Don't account idle time twice after dyntick-idle Stian Halseth
2026-10-14 12:17 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-10-16 8:01 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Stian Halseth
2026-10-25 7:27 ` WARNING: kernel/sched/cputime.c:481 at kcpustat_dyntick_stop+0x8b/0xa0, CPU#0: swapper/0/0 (was: [PATCH v3] sched/cputime: Don't account idle time twice after dyntick-idle) Paul Menzel
2026-10-25 8:13 ` Stian Halseth
2026-10-25 10:02 ` [PATCH] sched/cputime: Don't warn when the tick period starts after idle exit Stian Halseth
2026-10-26 16:42 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-10-26 17:28 ` Stian Halseth
2026-10-27 17:06 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-10-27 19:05 ` Stian Halseth
2026-10-28 14:14 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-10-28 17:37 ` Stian Halseth
2026-10-31 13:54 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-10-31 14:11 ` Stian Halseth
2026-10-31 21:54 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-10-31 22:05 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2026-10-30 16:14 ` Breno Leitao
2026-10-30 20:48 ` Stian Halseth
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