From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
Cc: <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <kvmarm@lists.linux.dev>,
<iommu@lists.linux.dev>, <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
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<yuzenghui@huawei.com>, <joro@8bytes.org>, <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
<mark.rutland@arm.com>, <qperret@google.com>, <tabba@google.com>,
<vdonnefort@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 11/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add the kernel driver
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2026 10:24:58 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <avNhekBYqiiZ9IM2@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <avL016l_xASN5paR@google.com>
On Tue, Nov 10, 2026 at 10:41:27AM +0000, Mostafa Saleh wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 09, 2026 at 04:16:53PM -0800, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 09, 2026 at 10:47:46AM +0000, Mostafa Saleh wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 05, 2026 at 01:06:18PM -0800, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2026 at 08:08:42PM +0000, Mostafa Saleh wrote:
> > > > > diff --git a/drivers/iommu/arm/arm-smmu-v3/arm-smmu-v3.c b/drivers/iommu/arm/arm-smmu-v3/arm-smmu-v3.c
> > > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_ARM_SMMU_V3_PKVM
> > > > > +/*
> > > > > + * Two devices are involved: the aux device bound to this driver, and the
> > > > > + * physical platform device bound to the pKVM init driver, which only uses it
> > > > > + * for discovery. This driver keeps using the platform device, as it carries
> > > > > + * the fwnode the IOMMU core and consumers link to, the DMA configuration and
> > > > > + * the IRQs.
> > > >
> > > > It would be nicer to have a diagram or so to show the co-relationship
> > > > among different devices and drivers.
> > > >
> > > > I assume the regular arm-smmu-v3 driver is a part of the picture too,
> > > > when the pkvm driver binding fails?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I can add some ASCII diagram.
> > > If pKVM driver fails, no aux devices are created and the main driver
> > > probes the platform SMMUv3 devices as usual.
> >
> > I didn't check closely, but would it be safe to do so?
> >
> > Is pkvm aware of the missing SMMU device and handling it properly?
> >
> > When pkvm is enabled and the SMMU device is supposed to be a pkvm
> > device, should it not fall back to the main driver?
>
> If pKVM fails to init for any reason (unsupported layout or non-coherent
> HW) the SMMU will be bound to the main driver so the system remains
> functional.
>
> However, pKVM will not be safe in that case regarding DMA isolation
> as the status quo.
> In Android, in that case, pKVM clears the FW (called pvmfw) that loads
> the protected VM and authenticate it so any protected VM knows the
> system is not trusted. This part is not upstream yet. [1]
You might want to double check a dual-SMMU case, where one gets
accepted by pkvm driver and the other fails and so bound to the
main driver.
It seems the pkvm driver would still pkvm_iommu_register_driver
and carry on with an untrusted SMMU. Would it also clear the FW
and mark the system as not trusted?
Nicolin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-10 18:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-15 20:08 [PATCH v9 00/25] KVM: arm64: SMMUv3 driver for pKVM (trap and emulate) Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 01/25] KVM: arm64: Donate MMIO to the hypervisor Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 02/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move Queue and STE functions to header Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 03/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move IDR parsing to common functions Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-20 19:02 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 04/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move hitless machinery to common code Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 05/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move RangeInval " Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-20 19:11 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 06/25] KVM: arm64: iommu: Introduce IOMMU driver infrastructure Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 07/25] KVM: arm64: iommu: Shadow host stage-2 page table Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 08/25] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add memory pool Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 09/25] KVM: arm64: iommu: Support DABT for IOMMU Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 10/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add SMMUv3 driver Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-29 21:18 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 11/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add the kernel driver Mostafa Saleh
2026-11-05 21:06 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-11-09 10:47 ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-11-10 0:16 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-11-10 10:41 ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-11-10 18:24 ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 12/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Probe SMMU HW Mostafa Saleh
2026-11-05 21:35 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 13/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add MMIO emulation Mostafa Saleh
2026-11-05 23:04 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-11-09 10:56 ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-11-06 19:56 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-11-09 11:06 ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 14/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow the command queue Mostafa Saleh
2026-11-05 23:54 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-11-09 11:30 ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-11-06 1:59 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-11-09 11:37 ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 15/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add CMDQ functions Mostafa Saleh
2026-11-06 0:13 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 16/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Emulate CMDQ for host Mostafa Saleh
2026-11-06 19:08 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-11-09 11:47 ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 17/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow stream table Mostafa Saleh
2026-11-06 19:45 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-11-09 12:01 ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 18/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow STEs Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 19/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Share other queues Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 20/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Emulate GBPA Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 21/25] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Support io-pgtable-arm in the hypervisor Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 22/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow the CPU stage-2 page table Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 23/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Invalidate the SMMU TLBs Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 24/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Enable nesting Mostafa Saleh
2026-10-15 20:08 ` [PATCH v9 25/25] KVM: arm64: Add documentation for pKVM DMA isolation Mostafa Saleh
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