From: chris hyser <chris.hyser@oracle.com>
To: "Li, Aubrey" <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v7 11/23] sched/fair: core wide cfs task priority comparison
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 16:53:09 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b7bfdba2-b1db-2acd-5f50-e6eb0008c817@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51424491-b7e0-b245-1062-319021eb1845@oracle.com>
On 9/16/20 10:24 AM, chris hyser wrote:
> On 9/16/20 8:57 AM, Li, Aubrey wrote:
>>> Here are the uperf results of the various patchsets. Note, that disabling smt is better for these tests and that that
>>> presumably reflects the overall overhead of core scheduling which went from bad to really bad. The primary focus in
>>> this email is to start to understand what happened within core sched itself.
>>>
>>> patchset smt=on/cs=off smt=off smt=on/cs=on
>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>> v5-v5.6.y : 1.78Gb/s 1.57Gb/s 1.07Gb/s
>>> pre-v6-v5.6.y : 1.75Gb/s 1.55Gb/s 822.16Mb/s
>>> v6-5.7 : 1.87Gs/s 1.56Gb/s 561.6Mb/s
>>> v6-5.7-hotplug : 1.75Gb/s 1.58Gb/s 438.21Mb/s
>>> v7 : 1.80Gb/s 1.61Gb/s 440.44Mb/s
>>
>> I haven't had a chance to play with v7, but I got something different.
>>
>> branch smt=on/cs=on
>> coresched/v5-v5.6.y 1.09Gb/s
>> coresched/v6-v5.7.y 1.05Gb/s
>>
>> I attached my kernel config in case you want to make a comparison, or you
>> can send yours, I'll try to see I can replicate your result.
>
> I will give this config a try. One of the reports forwarded to me about the drop in uperf perf was an email from you I
> believe mentioning a 50% perf drop between v5 and v6?? I was actually setting out to duplicate your results. :-)
The first thing I did was to verify I built and tested the right bits. Presumably as I get same numbers. I'm still
trying to tweak your config to get a root disk in my setup. Oh, one thing I missed in reading your first response, I had
24 cores/48 cpus. I think you had half that, though my guess is that that should have actually made the numbers even
worse. :-)
The following was forwarded to me originally sent on Aug 3, by you I believe:
> We found uperf(in cgroup) throughput drops by ~50% with corescheduling.
>
> The problem is, uperf triggered a lot of softirq and offloaded softirq
> service to *ksoftirqd* thread.
>
> - default, ksoftirqd thread can run with uperf on the same core, we saw
> 100% CPU utilization.
> - coresched enabled, ksoftirqd's core cookie is different from uperf, so
> they can't run concurrently on the same core, we saw ~15% forced idle.
>
> I guess this kind of performance drop can be replicated by other similar
> (a lot of softirq activities) workloads.
>
> Currently core scheduler picks cookie-match tasks for all SMT siblings, does
> it make sense we add a policy to allow cookie-compatible task running together?
> For example, if a task is trusted(set by admin), it can work with kernel thread.
> The difference from corescheduling disabled is that we still have user to user
> isolation.
>
> Thanks,
> -Aubrey
Would you please elaborate on what this test was? In trying to duplicate this, I just kept adding uperf threads to my
setup until I started to see performance losses similar to what is reported above (and a second report about v7). Also,
I wasn't looking for absolute numbers per-se, just significant enough differences to try to track where the performance
went.
-chrish
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-16 20:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-28 19:51 [RFC PATCH v7 00/23] Core scheduling v7 Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 01/23] sched: Wrap rq::lock access Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 02/23] sched: Introduce sched_class::pick_task() Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 03/23] sched: Core-wide rq->lock Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 04/23] sched/fair: Add a few assertions Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 05/23] sched: Basic tracking of matching tasks Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 06/23] bitops: Introduce find_next_or_bit Julien Desfossez
2020-09-03 5:13 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 07/23] cpumask: Introduce a new iterator for_each_cpu_wrap_or Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 08/23] sched: Add core wide task selection and scheduling Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 20:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-28 22:02 ` Vineeth Pillai
2020-08-28 22:23 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-08-29 7:47 ` peterz
2020-08-31 13:01 ` Vineeth Pillai
2020-08-31 14:24 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-01 3:38 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-01 5:10 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-01 12:34 ` Vineeth Pillai
2020-09-01 17:30 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-01 21:23 ` Vineeth Pillai
2020-09-02 1:11 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-08-28 20:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-28 22:15 ` Vineeth Pillai
2020-09-15 20:08 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 09/23] sched/fair: Fix forced idle sibling starvation corner case Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 21:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-28 23:24 ` Vineeth Pillai
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 10/23] sched/fair: wrapper for cfs_rq->min_vruntime Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 11/23] sched/fair: core wide cfs task priority comparison Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 21:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-17 14:15 ` Vineeth Pillai
2020-09-17 20:39 ` Vineeth Pillai
2020-09-23 1:46 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-23 1:52 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-25 15:02 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-15 21:49 ` chris hyser
[not found] ` <81b208ad-b9e6-bfbf-631e-02e9f75d73a2@linux.intel.com>
2020-09-16 14:24 ` chris hyser
2020-09-16 20:53 ` chris hyser [this message]
2020-09-17 1:09 ` Li, Aubrey
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 12/23] sched: Trivial forced-newidle balancer Julien Desfossez
2020-09-02 7:08 ` Pavan Kondeti
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 13/23] sched: migration changes for core scheduling Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 14/23] irq_work: Add support to detect if work is pending Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 15/23] entry/idle: Add a common function for activites during idle entry/exit Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 16/23] arch/x86: Add a new TIF flag for untrusted tasks Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 17/23] kernel/entry: Add support for core-wide protection of kernel-mode Julien Desfossez
2020-09-01 15:54 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-01 16:50 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-01 20:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-02 1:29 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-02 7:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-02 15:12 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-02 16:57 ` Dario Faggioli
2020-09-03 4:34 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-03 11:05 ` Vineeth Pillai
2020-09-03 13:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-03 20:30 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-03 13:43 ` Dario Faggioli
2020-09-03 20:25 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 18/23] entry/idle: Enter and exit kernel protection during idle entry and exit Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 19/23] entry/kvm: Protect the kernel when entering from guest Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 20/23] sched/coresched: config option for kernel protection Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 21/23] sched: cgroup tagging interface for core scheduling Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 22/23] Documentation: Add documentation on " Julien Desfossez
2020-08-28 19:51 ` [RFC PATCH v7 23/23] sched: Debug bits Julien Desfossez
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