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From: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, paulus@samba.org,
	davem@davemloft.net, perfmon2-devel@lists.sf.net,
	eranian@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf_events: improve x86 event scheduling (v5)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 11:38:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bd4cb8901001210238hae424b4qe5788f2a025c897a@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1264069717.4283.1148.camel@laptop>

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 11:21 +0100, Stephane Eranian wrote:
>
>> Are you suggesting a speculative approach where you first try simply
>> accumulate then schedule and if this fails, then restart the whole
>> loop but this time adding and scheduling each event individually?
>> For groups, you'd have to fail the group if one of its events fails.
>
> No, I'm only talking about groups. The complaint from frederic was that
> current hw_perf_group_sched_in() implementations have to basically
> replicate all of the group_sched_in() and event_sched_in() stuff, which
> seems wasteful.
>
I agree about the replication problem. But this comes from the fact that
if you call hw_perf_group_sched_in() and you succeed, you want to only
execute part of what group_sched_in() normally does, namely mark the
event as active, update timing but skip event_sched_in() stuff, incl. enable().
Actual activation is deferred until perf_enable() which avoids having some
events actually measuring while you are still scheduling events.

> So I was thinking of an alternative interface that would give the same
> end result but not as much code replication.
>
> I'm now leaning towards adding a parameter to ->enable() to postpone
> schedulability and add a hw_perf_validate() like call.
>
> With that I'm also looking at what would be the sanest way to multiplex
> all the current weak hw_perf* functions in the light of multiple pmu
> implementations.
>
>



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  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-21 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-18  8:58 Stephane Eranian
2010-01-18 13:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-18 13:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 14:12     ` Stephane Eranian
2010-01-18 14:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 14:33       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 14:20     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-18 14:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 14:45         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-18 14:56           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 16:18             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-18 16:26               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 16:51                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-18 17:13                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 17:29                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-18 20:01                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-19 12:22                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-19 13:24                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-19 15:55                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-19 16:25                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-27 17:38                               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-19 15:40                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-21 10:08           ` Stephane Eranian
2010-01-21 10:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 10:21               ` Stephane Eranian
2010-01-21 10:28                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 10:38                   ` Stephane Eranian [this message]
2010-01-21 10:45             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-21 11:44               ` Stephane Eranian
2010-01-21 12:02                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-18 14:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 14:53         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-18 14:59           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 16:22             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-21 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 10:43   ` Stephane Eranian
2010-01-21 10:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 14:06       ` Stephane Eranian
2010-01-21 13:55 ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: x86: Add support for the ANY bit tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2010-01-29  9:26 ` [tip:perf/core] perf_events, x86: Improve x86 event scheduling tip-bot for Stephane Eranian

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