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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
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	JP Kobryn <jp.kobryn@linux.dev>,
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	Michal Koutny <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	Amery Hung <ameryhung@gmail.com>,
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	Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
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	Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
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	hui.zhu@linux.dev, Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>,
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	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] memcg_ext: memcg policy through cgroup-attached struct_ops
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2026 06:25:08 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1fdbe4f99352a102b38c7d131215d5a@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ar7H__jzvWVtqSn5@linux.dev>

Hello, Shakeel.

On Thu, Oct 01, 2026 at 03:56:47PM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> We are in agreement on (1) and (2) completely. For (3), I am fine with removing
> the sync enforcement, but for throttling points for bulk operation sites,
> I think we should only add them when there is an actual use case for that
> or someone complains about overrun from those sites.

On (3), if removing synchronous enforcement wouldn't regress anything,
that's fine, but why was it added in the first place?

> Now, setting aside the default behavior of memory.high, I want to provide
> additional flexibility to users for (3) specifically. One specific case is
> letting users opt in to async reclaim instead of the other forms of memory.high
> enforcement. Basically, users can specify that instead of having their
> application threads throttled, they would prefer async reclaim to bring their
> usage back below memory.high.

As for flexibility, we already have a gradient of enforcement around
memory.high. Is the need here to make the shape of that gradient
configurable? Can you give specific examples where this is needed?

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-02 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-21 19:25 Shakeel Butt
2026-09-21 19:25 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] bpf, cgroup: fix cgroup struct_ops query for a second attach type Shakeel Butt
2026-09-21 20:19   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-29 11:49   ` Yafang Shao
2026-09-21 19:25 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] memcg_ext: add cgroup-attached bpf_memcg_ops Shakeel Butt
2026-09-21 19:25 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] memcg_ext: allow BPF to defer memory.high enforcement Shakeel Butt
2026-09-24 20:14   ` JP Kobryn
2026-09-24 21:19     ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-21 19:25 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] selftests/bpf: add a cgroupfs lock-holder bpf_memcg_ops sample Shakeel Butt
2026-09-23 13:07 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] memcg_ext: memcg policy through cgroup-attached struct_ops Yafang Shao
2026-09-23 15:47   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-24 10:01     ` Yafang Shao
2026-09-24 20:42       ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-28  3:23         ` Yafang Shao
2026-09-28 20:40 ` Tejun Heo
2026-09-30 13:28   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-30 23:35     ` Tejun Heo
2026-10-01  1:00       ` Shakeel Butt
2026-10-01 18:42         ` Tejun Heo
2026-10-01 22:56           ` Shakeel Butt
2026-10-02 16:25             ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2026-10-02 22:19               ` Shakeel Butt

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