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From: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
To: Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "mikko.ylinen@linux.intel.com" <mikko.ylinen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	"Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
	"Chatre, Reinette" <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	"Lindgren, Tony" <tony.lindgren@intel.com>,
	"Shutemov, Kirill" <kirill.shutemov@intel.com>,
	"Hunter, Adrian" <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	"Yamahata, Isaku" <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/4] KVM: TDX: Exit to userspace for GetTdVmCallInfo
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 10:37:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d53d6131-bf99-4bb0-8d25-00834864402d@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e2e7f3d0-1077-44c6-8a1d-add4e1640d32@linux.intel.com>

On 6/11/2025 10:04 AM, Binbin Wu wrote:
> 
> 
> On 6/11/2025 12:54 AM, Edgecombe, Rick P wrote:
>> On Tue, 2025-06-10 at 09:50 -0700, Rick Edgecombe wrote:
>>> Why do we need an opt-in interface instead of a way to expose which 
>>> exit's are
>>> supported by KVM? I would think the need for a TDVMCALL opt-in 
>>> interface would
>>> only come up if there was a bad guest that was making TDVMCALLs that 
>>> it did not
>>> see in GetTdVmCallInfo.
> 
> The opt-in interface can eliminate some requirements for userspace.
> E.g, for GetQuote, this patch set enforces userspace to handle the exit 
> reason
> due to GetQuote as the initial support, because KVM doesn't know if 
> userspace
> is able to handle the exit reason or not without userspace's opt-in, unless
> it's handled by default in userspace.

Beside it.

opt-in is not needed if we only care about <getquote> for now since KVM 
makes <getquote> exit to userspace unconditionally.

But to support any new TDVMCALL leaf that needs to exit userspace, we 
will have to use opt-in. So to me, implement the opt-in at the first 
place as a common interface for all the optional tdvmcall leafs instead 
of making <getquote> specific is not a bad idea to me, especially the 
opt-in implementation doesn't look complicated.

>>>   So that we would actually require an opt-in is not
>>> guaranteed.
>>>
>>> Another consideration could be how to handle GetQuote for an eventual 
>>> TDVMCALL
>>> opt-in interface, should it be needed. The problem would be GetQuote 
>>> would be
>>> opted in by default and make the interface weird. But we may not want 
>>> to have a
>>> TDVMCall specific opt-in interface. There could be other TDX 
>>> behaviors that we
>>> need to opt-in around. In which case the opt-in interface could be 
>>> more generic,
>>> and by implementing the TDVMCall opt-in interface ahead of time we 
>>> would end up
>>> with two opt-in interfaces instead of one.
> 
> Maybe we can use a TDX specific opt-in interface instead of TDVMCALL 
> specific
> interface.
> But not sure we should add it now or later.

For simplicity, I prefer separate opt-in interfaces, it makes code simpler.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-11  2:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-10  2:14 [RFC PATCH 0/4] TDX attestation support and GHCI fixup Binbin Wu
2025-06-10  2:14 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] KVM: TDX: Add new TDVMCALL status code for unsupported subfuncs Binbin Wu
2025-06-10  2:14 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] KVM: TDX: Handle TDG.VP.VMCALL<GetQuote> Binbin Wu
2025-06-10  2:14 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] KVM: TDX: Exit to userspace for GetTdVmCallInfo Binbin Wu
2025-06-10  9:16   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-06-10 16:50     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-10 16:54       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-11  2:04         ` Binbin Wu
2025-06-11  2:37           ` Xiaoyao Li [this message]
2025-06-11 14:17             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-11 14:34               ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-06-11 14:41                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-11  1:37     ` Binbin Wu
2025-06-11  2:17       ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-06-11 14:54         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-11 14:58           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-11 16:26             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-11 16:53               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-11 18:13                 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-11 18:52                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-12  8:27                   ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-12 15:26                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-20 18:27                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-10  2:14 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] KVM: TDX: Check KVM exit on KVM_HC_MAP_GPA_RANGE when TD finalize Binbin Wu
2025-06-10 17:01   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-10 19:58     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-11  1:22       ` Binbin Wu
2025-06-11 13:36         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-11 14:01           ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-06-11 14:04             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-11 14:26               ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-06-11 16:00                 ` Binbin Wu
2025-06-11 15:33           ` Binbin Wu

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