From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
"Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
Cc: "mikko.ylinen@linux.intel.com" <mikko.ylinen@linux.intel.com>,
"Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
"binbin.wu@linux.intel.com" <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>,
"Li, Xiaoyao" <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
"Chatre, Reinette" <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
"Hunter, Adrian" <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
"Shutemov, Kirill" <kirill.shutemov@intel.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"Lindgren, Tony" <tony.lindgren@intel.com>,
"Yamahata, Isaku" <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>,
"Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/4] KVM: TDX: Exit to userspace for GetTdVmCallInfo
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 15:26:51 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d7ca6f2cfb5e1d24c2331af425a538b996d12004.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <88c3cd16a24c7318f671223bd65eef63fe276a08.camel@intel.com>
On Thu, 2025-06-12 at 08:27 +0000, Huang, Kai wrote:
> With no intention to disrupt this discussion, but even w/o GetQuote TDX can
> also support attestation, because TD can just get the TDREPORT and send to
> remote Quoting Enclave to get it signed, via whatever communication channel
> available (vsock, TCP/IP etc). :-)
>
> It's just not all TDX guests have those communication channels available in
> CSP's deployment, and GetQuote can fill up the hole as a last resort.
>
> Of course now TD userspace may choose to only support GetQuote simply
> because kernel supports "unified ABI" to return remotely verifiable blob
> across vendors, but still ...
This was what I was getting at by "Some highly coupled guest/VMM has an
alternate attestation scheme". If you don't care about running on any VMM, you
could invent your own communication channel. But the same is true for the other
TDVMCALLs as well.
I guess the way to look at it is what is the MVP for a TD that expects to run on
general VMMs. The others could also invent their own enumeration API and return
failure for GetTdVmCallInfo.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-12 15:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-10 2:14 [RFC PATCH 0/4] TDX attestation support and GHCI fixup Binbin Wu
2025-06-10 2:14 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] KVM: TDX: Add new TDVMCALL status code for unsupported subfuncs Binbin Wu
2025-06-10 2:14 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] KVM: TDX: Handle TDG.VP.VMCALL<GetQuote> Binbin Wu
2025-06-10 2:14 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] KVM: TDX: Exit to userspace for GetTdVmCallInfo Binbin Wu
2025-06-10 9:16 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-06-10 16:50 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-10 16:54 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-11 2:04 ` Binbin Wu
2025-06-11 2:37 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-06-11 14:17 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-11 14:34 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-06-11 14:41 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-11 1:37 ` Binbin Wu
2025-06-11 2:17 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-06-11 14:54 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-11 14:58 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-11 16:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-11 16:53 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-11 18:13 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-11 18:52 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-12 8:27 ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-12 15:26 ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2025-06-20 18:27 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-10 2:14 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] KVM: TDX: Check KVM exit on KVM_HC_MAP_GPA_RANGE when TD finalize Binbin Wu
2025-06-10 17:01 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-10 19:58 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-11 1:22 ` Binbin Wu
2025-06-11 13:36 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-11 14:01 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-06-11 14:04 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-11 14:26 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-06-11 16:00 ` Binbin Wu
2025-06-11 15:33 ` Binbin Wu
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