From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Rodolfo Giometti <giometti@enneenne.com>,
Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/4] pps: Drop the !NO_HZ_COMMON dependency from NTP_PPS
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2026 13:02:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d8d158e655ab205be7baa5e8976bc33e5a8473d9.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a174957f-f414-42c9-80f9-5d60f448e044@enneenne.com>
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On Tue, 2026-09-29 at 13:48 +0200, Rodolfo Giometti wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> On 29/09/2026 11:32, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > When second_overflow() is delivering skew, timekeeping_max_deferment()
> > should trigger a wakeup at the end of the second to ensure that the
> > skew gets recalculated — rather than leaving it active indefinitely.
>
> Please put this fix in the series before 2/4, as for the tick_length
> one.
Yep.
I've vacillated a bit about ntp_error: should we compensate for it
(patch 1/4), should we *eliminate* it (as I mentioned we can again now
I added the wakeup), and/or should we avoid the situations where it
even *accumulates* in large quantities (e.g. time_offset being changed
mid-second while skew is still running, so the now-unwanted skew has
nowhere to go but ntp_error).
I have come to the conclusion that all three can be true
simultaneously, and I have patches for each :)
> > So the results at https://david.woodhou.se/ntptest-r64/tickless/ need
> > to be redone, but you can take a look and shout if you want me to
> > change what I'm capturing or how I'm doing it.
>
> What you capture is fine for me: the adjtimex state (offset, jitter,
> stabil, errcnt) plus the per-pulse phase are what I wanted to see.
>
> Two questions for the rerun:
>
> - wouldn't it be better to also have the tickful baseline with the same
> board, the same GPS and the same pulse period, so the numbers can be
> compared directly?
>
> - since typical PPS sources deliver 1 Hz, don't you think it would be
> better to also do one run with the timepulse at 1 Hz?
That full 2x2 matrix is on the list, but I only have one board. :)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-29 12:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-29 20:56 [PATCH v4 0/4] Add ntp_error to clock snapshot, enable NTP_PPS on tickless kernel David Woodhouse
2026-08-29 20:56 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] timekeeping: Apply extrapolated ntp_error to clock snapshots David Woodhouse
2026-08-29 20:57 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] pps: Drop the !NO_HZ_COMMON dependency from NTP_PPS David Woodhouse
2026-09-01 15:35 ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-02 0:13 ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-28 13:37 ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-28 16:41 ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-28 19:28 ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-29 6:33 ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-29 9:32 ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-29 11:48 ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-29 12:02 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2026-09-30 1:28 ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-30 12:57 ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-30 10:37 ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-30 12:57 ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-30 14:05 ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-30 18:24 ` David Woodhouse
2026-10-01 8:20 ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-10-01 9:08 ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-29 20:57 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] pps: Always use ktime_get_snapshot_id() for pps_get_ts() David Woodhouse
2026-09-01 15:35 ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-01 23:56 ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-26 20:38 ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-28 7:58 ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-28 12:59 ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-28 16:41 ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-10-01 13:14 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-10-01 15:38 ` David Woodhouse
2026-10-02 7:04 ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-10-02 9:07 ` David Woodhouse
2026-10-02 12:29 ` David Woodhouse
2026-10-02 13:44 ` David Woodhouse
2026-10-03 11:29 ` David Woodhouse
2026-10-05 9:16 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-08-29 20:57 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] [DO NOT MERGE] ptp: ptp_vmclock: Add simulated 1PPS support David Woodhouse
2026-09-01 15:35 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] Add ntp_error to clock snapshot, enable NTP_PPS on tickless kernel Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-01 23:37 ` David Woodhouse
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