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From: Rodolfo Giometti <giometti@enneenne.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/4] pps: Drop the !NO_HZ_COMMON dependency from NTP_PPS
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2026 10:20:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fbc06405-c7a0-441e-af5c-be7d55e732b5@enneenne.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <14280dde8487260f4c590d49a0297777b690660d.camel@infradead.org>

Hi David,

On 30/09/2026 20:24, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Wed, 2026-09-30 at 15:05 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
>> [...] But
>> I don't think we're ever going to be allowed to do it that way in
>> entry.S but the *hardware-captured* stamps will want the same handling,
>> so I wanted to prototype it anyway.

Hardware-captured stamps are something I'd really like to see in the PPS
subsystem. When you get there, I think it should be its own series,
discussed together with the raw counter export you mentioned on the
28th, since both change what a PPS driver hands to the core and what
userspace gets back. As I said for the export, I'd prefer to agree on
the interface first.

> We don't actually do *any* filtering. Even pps_phase_filter_get() is
> just using the first sample, with a comment:
>
> 	/* TODO: test various filters */
>
> Looking closer at the actual captures, even Mills's median-of-three
> wouldn't save us here when two of the three pulses are outliers. We'd
> want an ongoing frequency estimation.
>
> But that's definitely a problem for another day.

Agreed, but I'm interested in it too. Your setup, with the per-pulse
captures, looks like a good way to evaluate a filter, so if you or
anyone else picks it up, please Cc me and I'll be glad to review it.

Ciao,

Rodolfo

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-01  8:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-29 20:56 [PATCH v4 0/4] Add ntp_error to clock snapshot, enable NTP_PPS on tickless kernel David Woodhouse
2026-08-29 20:56 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] timekeeping: Apply extrapolated ntp_error to clock snapshots David Woodhouse
2026-08-29 20:57 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] pps: Drop the !NO_HZ_COMMON dependency from NTP_PPS David Woodhouse
2026-09-01 15:35   ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-02  0:13     ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-28 13:37     ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-28 16:41       ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-28 19:28         ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-29  6:33           ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-29  9:32             ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-29 11:48               ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-29 12:02                 ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-30  1:28                 ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-30 12:57                   ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-30 10:37                 ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-30 12:57                   ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-30 14:05                     ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-30 18:24                       ` David Woodhouse
2026-10-01  8:20                         ` Rodolfo Giometti [this message]
2026-10-01  9:08                           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-29 20:57 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] pps: Always use ktime_get_snapshot_id() for pps_get_ts() David Woodhouse
2026-09-01 15:35   ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-01 23:56     ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-26 20:38     ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-28  7:58       ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-28 12:59         ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-28 16:41           ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-08-29 20:57 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] [DO NOT MERGE] ptp: ptp_vmclock: Add simulated 1PPS support David Woodhouse
2026-09-01 15:35 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] Add ntp_error to clock snapshot, enable NTP_PPS on tickless kernel Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-01 23:37   ` David Woodhouse

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