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From: wangtao <tao.wangtao@honor.com>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"sumit.semwal@linaro.org" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com"
	<benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com>,
	"Brian.Starkey@arm.com" <Brian.Starkey@arm.com>,
	"jstultz@google.com" <jstultz@google.com>,
	"tjmercier@google.com" <tjmercier@google.com>
Cc: "linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org" <linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"wangbintian(BintianWang)" <bintian.wang@honor.com>,
	yipengxiang <yipengxiang@honor.com>,
	liulu 00013167 <liulu.liu@honor.com>,
	"hanfeng 00012985" <feng.han@honor.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 2/2] dmabuf/heaps: implement DMA_BUF_IOCTL_RW_FILE for system_heap
Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 09:49:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e23bfe917c8744aa9162744bdd8ac458@honor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5c11b50c-2e36-4fd5-943c-086f55adffa8@amd.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian König <christian.koenig@amd.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2025 4:36 PM
> To: wangtao <tao.wangtao@honor.com>; sumit.semwal@linaro.org;
> benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com; Brian.Starkey@arm.com;
> jstultz@google.com; tjmercier@google.com
> Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org; dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org; linaro-
> mm-sig@lists.linaro.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
> wangbintian(BintianWang) <bintian.wang@honor.com>; yipengxiang
> <yipengxiang@honor.com>; liulu 00013167 <liulu.liu@honor.com>; hanfeng
> 00012985 <feng.han@honor.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] dmabuf/heaps: implement
> DMA_BUF_IOCTL_RW_FILE for system_heap
> 
> On 5/16/25 09:40, wangtao wrote:
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Christian König <christian.koenig@amd.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2025 10:26 PM
> >> To: wangtao <tao.wangtao@honor.com>; sumit.semwal@linaro.org;
> >> benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com; Brian.Starkey@arm.com;
> >> jstultz@google.com; tjmercier@google.com
> >> Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org; dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org;
> >> linaro- mm-sig@lists.linaro.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
> >> wangbintian(BintianWang) <bintian.wang@honor.com>; yipengxiang
> >> <yipengxiang@honor.com>; liulu 00013167 <liulu.liu@honor.com>;
> >> hanfeng
> >> 00012985 <feng.han@honor.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] dmabuf/heaps: implement
> >> DMA_BUF_IOCTL_RW_FILE for system_heap
> >>
> >> On 5/15/25 16:03, wangtao wrote:
> >>> [wangtao] My Test Configuration (CPU 1GHz, 5-test average):
> >>> Allocation: 32x32MB buffer creation
> >>> - dmabuf 53ms vs. udmabuf 694ms (10X slower)
> >>> - Note: shmem shows excessive allocation time
> >>
> >> Yeah, that is something already noted by others as well. But that is
> >> orthogonal.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Read 1024MB File:
> >>> - dmabuf direct 326ms vs. udmabuf direct 461ms (40% slower)
> >>> - Note: pin_user_pages_fast consumes majority CPU cycles
> >>>
> >>> Key function call timing: See details below.
> >>
> >> Those aren't valid, you are comparing different functionalities here.
> >>
> >> Please try using udmabuf with sendfile() as confirmed to be working by
> T.J.
> > [wangtao] Using buffer IO with dmabuf file read/write requires one
> memory copy.
> > Direct IO removes this copy to enable zero-copy. The sendfile system
> > call reduces memory copies from two (read/write) to one. However, with
> > udmabuf, sendfile still keeps at least one copy, failing zero-copy.
> 
> 
> Then please work on fixing this.
[wangtao] What needs fixing? Does sendfile achieve zero-copy?
sendfile reduces memory copies (from 2 to 1) for network sockets,
but still requires one copy and cannot achieve zero copies.

> 
> Regards,
> Christian.
> 
> 
> >
> > If udmabuf sendfile uses buffer IO (file page cache), read latency
> > matches dmabuf buffer read, but allocation time is much longer.
> > With Direct IO, the default 16-page pipe size makes it slower than buffer IO.
> >
> > Test data shows:
> > udmabuf direct read is much faster than udmabuf sendfile.
> > dmabuf direct read outperforms udmabuf direct read by a large margin.
> >
> > Issue: After udmabuf is mapped via map_dma_buf, apps using memfd or
> > udmabuf for Direct IO might cause errors, but there are no safeguards
> > to prevent this.
> >
> > Allocate 32x32MB buffer and read 1024 MB file Test:
> > Metric                 | alloc (ms) | read (ms) | total (ms)
> > -----------------------|------------|-----------|-----------
> > udmabuf buffer read    | 539        | 2017      | 2555
> > udmabuf direct read    | 522        | 658       | 1179
> > udmabuf buffer sendfile| 505        | 1040      | 1546
> > udmabuf direct sendfile| 510        | 2269      | 2780
> > dmabuf buffer read     | 51         | 1068      | 1118
> > dmabuf direct read     | 52         | 297       | 349
> >
> > udmabuf sendfile test steps:
> > 1. Open data file(1024MB), get back_fd 2. Create memfd(32MB) # Loop
> > steps 2-6 3. Allocate udmabuf with memfd 4. Call sendfile(memfd,
> > back_fd) 5. Close memfd after sendfile 6. Close udmabuf 7. Close
> > back_fd
> >
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Christian.
> >


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-16  9:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-13  9:28 wangtao
2025-05-13 11:32 ` Christian König
2025-05-13 12:30   ` wangtao
2025-05-13 13:17     ` Christian König
2025-05-14 11:02       ` wangtao
2025-05-14 12:00         ` Christian König
2025-05-15 14:03           ` wangtao
2025-05-15 14:26             ` Christian König
2025-05-16  7:40               ` wangtao
2025-05-16  8:36                 ` Christian König
2025-05-16  9:49                   ` wangtao [this message]
2025-05-16 10:29                     ` Christian König
2025-05-19  4:08                       ` wangtao
2025-05-19  7:47                         ` Christian König
2025-05-16 18:37                   ` T.J. Mercier
2025-05-19  4:37                     ` wangtao
2025-05-19 12:03                     ` wangtao
2025-05-20  4:06                       ` wangtao
2025-05-21  2:00                         ` T.J. Mercier
2025-05-21  4:17                           ` wangtao
2025-05-21  7:35                             ` Christian König
2025-05-21 10:25                               ` wangtao
2025-05-21 11:56                                 ` Christian König
2025-05-22  8:02                                   ` wangtao
2025-05-22 11:57                                     ` Christian König
2025-05-22 12:29                                       ` wangtao
2025-05-27 14:35                                       ` wangtao
2025-05-27 15:10                                         ` Christian König

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