From: Chris Mason <clm@meta.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: futex performance regression from "futex: Allow automatic allocation of process wide futex hash"
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2025 18:17:50 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4538bb6-4988-461b-9aac-26d91ca174e9@meta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250606070638.2Wk45AMk@linutronix.de>
On 6/6/25 3:06 AM, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2025-06-05 20:55:27 [-0400], Chris Mason wrote:
[ ... ]
>> Going back to your diff, if we have a process growing the total number
>> of threads, can we set FH_IMMUTABLE too early? As the number of threads
>> increases, eventually we'll pick the 2x num_cpus, but that'll take a while?
>
> If you refer to the schbench diff, then set it early. Once the prctl()
> to set the size of the private hash, there will be no resize by the
> kernel.
>
> If you refer to the kernel diff where set the FH_IMMUTABLE flag, then it
> is set once the upper limit is reached (that was the plan in case I did
> the logic wrong). Which means at that point it won't increase any
> further because of the CPU limit. The only way how you can reach it too
> early is if you offline CPUs.
I pulled your immutable diff on top of c0c9379f235d. Just the immutable
diff, not the first suggestion that bumped num_online_cpus() * 2.
The RPS did not improve (~2.5M RPS). Looking at the futex_private_hash
of the process:
>>> task.mm.futex_phash
*(struct futex_private_hash *)0xff110003bbd15000 = {
.users = (rcuref_t){
.refcnt = (atomic_t){
.counter = (int)0,
},
},
.hash_mask = (unsigned int)15,
.rcu = (struct callback_head){
.next = (struct callback_head *)0x0,
.func = (void (*)(struct callback_head *))0x0,
},
.mm = (void *)0xff110003321a2400,
.custom = (bool)0,
.immutable = (bool)1,
.queues = (struct futex_hash_bucket []){},
}
It's because our calculation on the max is based on
min(get_nr_threads(current), num_online_cpus())
get_nr_threads starts smaller than num_online_cpus(), so we immediately
decide we've maxed out the buckets?
-chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-06 22:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-03 19:00 Chris Mason
2025-06-04 9:28 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-06-04 15:48 ` Chris Mason
2025-06-04 20:08 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-06-06 0:55 ` Chris Mason
2025-06-06 7:06 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-06-06 21:06 ` Chris Mason
2025-06-06 22:17 ` Chris Mason [this message]
2025-06-24 19:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-26 11:01 ` Chris Mason
2025-06-26 13:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-26 13:50 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-06-27 11:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-27 12:14 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-06-30 14:50 ` [PATCH] futex: Temporary disable FUTEX_PRIVATE_HASH Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-01 13:13 ` [tip: locking/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-16 1:34 ` [PATCH] " kernel test robot
2025-06-26 13:48 ` futex performance regression from "futex: Allow automatic allocation of process wide futex hash" Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-06-26 14:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-27 12:24 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-06-27 22:48 ` Tim Chen
2025-06-28 8:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
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