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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Timur Tabi <ttabi@nvidia.com>, "dakr@kernel.org" <dakr@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
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	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gpu: nova-core: bitfield: use &mut self setters instead of builder pattern
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2025 14:47:26 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ec3e5da4-f944-4526-a339-3da8286c36d2@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9db27bd6015ccebaa20e51450d8c42eb2864cb2e.camel@nvidia.com>

On 12/31/25 2:33 PM, Timur Tabi wrote:
> On Wed, 2025-12-31 at 13:47 -0800, John Hubbard wrote:
>> The builder-pattern setters (self -> Self) enabled method chaining like:
>>
>>     reg.set_foo(x).set_sec(y).write(bar);
>>
>> This made separate operations appear as a single expression, obscuring
>> that each setter is a distinct mutation. 
> 
> So you're concerned about the fact that the compiler is not merging the set_foo(x) and the
> set_sec(y) into a single read-modify-write?

No, I don't care about that aspect.

> 
>> These setters are infallible,
>> so the chaining provides no error-propagation benefit—it just obscures
>> what are simple, independent assignments.
>>
>> Change the bitfield!() macro to generate `&mut self` setters, so each
>> operation is a distinct statement:
>>
>>     reg.set_foo(x);
>>     reg.set_sec(y);
>>     reg.write(bar);
> 
> Are you sure about this?  It just seems like you're throwing out a neat little feature of Rust and
> replacing it with something that's very C-like.  This breaks compatible with all users of the regs
> macros.  Seems really disruptive for what seems to me like a cosmetic change.
> 

It's only a neat feature if it *does* something. In this case, it *looks*
like a neat Rust feature, but under the covers it really is just handing
around copies unnecessarily, when really, it *is* doing the C-like thing
in the end.

I object to the fake Rust-ness that's being done here. It's like putting
hubcabs on a car.

thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-31 22:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-31 21:47 John Hubbard
2025-12-31 22:33 ` Timur Tabi
2025-12-31 22:47   ` John Hubbard [this message]
2026-01-01  0:15     ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-01  0:46       ` John Hubbard
2026-01-01  2:42         ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-01  2:52           ` John Hubbard
2026-01-01  4:05             ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-01  4:28               ` Gary Guo
2026-01-01 10:01                 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-01  8:42 ` kernel test robot

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