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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@kernel.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	Josh Triplett	 <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki	 <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Lai Jiangshan	 <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>,
	Davidlohr Bueso	 <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Kunwu Chan <kunwu.chan@gmail.com>,
	Puranjay Mohan	 <puranjay@kernel.org>,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] srcu: NMI-safe atomic SRCU readers, and their irqsave forms
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2026 18:53:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f4e56be61d46472ab1484900ba13bfc6e51a16b6.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261111145949.70845-1-mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>

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On Wed, 2026-11-11 at 09:59 -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> This series adapts atomic SRCU to the needs of RCU pseudo-transactions
> [1], as we discussed [2].  Their readers resolve a proxy within a short
> section, in any context, NMI included.  A writer waits for these
> sections without sleeping, from task, softirq or hardirq context.
> Atomic SRCU fits, with one fix, one rule made explicit and two
> additions:
> 
> - Patch 1 fixes Tiny synchronize_srcu_atomic().  With
>   CONFIG_PREEMPTION=y, it called synchronize_rcu(), which ends an RCU
>   grace period on Tiny RCU.  That is wrong when the caller is in an
>   interrupt handler or within rcu_read_lock().
> - Patch 2 is about calling synchronize_srcu_atomic() from an interrupt
>   handler.  All calls on that srcu_struct, task context included, must
>   then disable interrupts around it.  Otherwise, the interrupt handler
>   may spin forever on the CPU of a waiter it interrupted.  Patch 2
>   documents this rule, and warns when it is broken.
> - Patch 3 makes the atomic readers NMI-safe.  They use the counter
>   increments of __srcu_read_lock_nmisafe(), which keep the full barriers
>   that synchronize_srcu_atomic() pairs with.
> - Patch 4 adds srcu_read_lock_atomic_irqsave() and
>   srcu_read_unlock_atomic_irqrestore().  They disable interrupts instead
>   of preemption, for a domain whose writers wait with interrupts
>   disabled.
> - Patch 5 makes rcutorture run readers from NMI, for the NMI-safe reader
>   flavors.
> - Patch 6 makes rcutorture alternate the atomic readers of each CPU with
>   irqsave readers, with a new atomic_irqsave parameter.  It also adds an
>   SRCU-P run of this mode to torture.sh.
> - Patch 7 makes rcutorture check what patch 1 fixes.
> 
> Patch 2 does not make synchronize_srcu_atomic() disable interrupts
> itself.  A reader that disables only preemption may wait for an IPI to
> the waiter's CPU, and that IPI would never run.  Only the caller knows
> that its readers disable interrupts.
> 
> On architectures without NMI-safe this_cpu_inc(), every atomic reader
> now pays an atomic increment at lock and at unlock.  The update side is
> unchanged.  On architectures with NMI-safe this_cpu_inc(), such as x86,
> the readers use the same counter increments as before.  David agreed to
> the change, as long as synchronize_srcu_atomic() stays within the 4-16us
> it was designed for [3].

Tested-by: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>

I gave it a spin on the 192-way Granite Rapids box I've been using for
the KVM gfn-to-pfn-cache conversion to atomic SRCU.

All my torture tests pass, including the mmu_notifier race test which
does a full invalidate/refresh cycle for every one of 5000 event
channel deliveries. That works out at over 1.2 million calls to
synchronize_srcu_atomic() per run, of which 99.4% are below 8µs:

                with series          without
    [4, 8)µs     99.388%             99.458%
    [8, 16)       0.583%             0.508%
    [16, 32)      0.026%             0.032%
    > 32µs        0.003%             0.002%
    worst        128-256µs bucket    512µs-1ms bucket
    (n)          1235551             1126320

So it's basically identical to the same measurement without your
series, which is fairly much as we expected.

Also, rcutorture with reader_flavor=0x10 ran clean for five minutes,
for whatever that's worth on a config where NEED_SRCU_NMI_SAFE is off.

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-11-12  1:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-11 14:59 Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] srcutiny: Do not call synchronize_rcu() from synchronize_srcu_atomic() Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 18:35   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-11 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] srcu: Rule for using synchronize_srcu_atomic() from interrupt handlers Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 18:54   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-11 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] srcu: Make atomic SRCU readers NMI-safe Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 19:55   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-11 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] srcu: Add irqsave variants of the atomic SRCU readers Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 19:58   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-11 20:04     ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-11 20:13       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12  0:07         ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-12  1:32           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12  2:13             ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-11 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] rcutorture: Run NMI-safe SRCU readers from NMI Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12  0:39   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-11 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] rcutorture: Test the irqsave forms of atomic SRCU readers Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12  0:45   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-11 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] rcutorture: Check an atomic SRCU wait within an RCU reader Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12  0:46   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-11 19:02 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] srcu: NMI-safe atomic SRCU readers, and their irqsave forms David Woodhouse
2026-11-11 19:33   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 19:35     ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-11 19:37     ` David Woodhouse
2026-11-11 19:40       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 19:50         ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-11 19:34   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-12  1:53 ` David Woodhouse [this message]

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