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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	 LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Jeanson <mjeanson@efficios.com>,
	 Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	 Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,  Wei Liu <wei.liu@kernel.org>,
	 Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	 Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org>
Subject: Re: BUG: rseq selftests and librseq vs. glibc fail
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 16:15:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <lhuect8sol1.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87frdoybk4.ffs@tglx> (Thomas Gleixner's message of "Mon, 18 Aug 2025 16:00:27 +0200")

* Thomas Gleixner:

> On Sun, Aug 17 2025 at 23:23, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> It survives the self test suite after I wasted a day to figure out why
>> the selftests reliably segfault on a machine which has debian trixie
>> installed. The fix is in the branch.
>
> That's glibc 2.41 FWIW. glibc 2.36 from Debian 12 does not have this
> problem.
>
> The fix unfortunately only works with a dynamically linked libc,
> statically linked libc fails. The fix is basically a revert of
>
>    3bcbc20942db ("selftests/rseq: Play nice with binaries statically linked
>                   against glibc 2.35+")
>
> which introduced these weak libc symbols to make static libc linking work.
>
> I have no idea why this creates havoc, but in GDB I saw that libc
> manages to overwrite the TLS of the pthread at some place, but I gave up
> decoding it further. If no pthread is created it just works. Removing
> this weak muck makes it work too.
>
> It's trivial to reproduce. All it needs is to have in the source:
>
> __weak ptrdiff_t __rseq_offset;
>
> w/o even being referenced and creating a pthread. Reproducer below.

Well, that's sort of expected.  You can't define glibc symbols that are
not intended for interposition and expect things to work.  It's kind of
like writing:

int _rtld_global;

That's going to fail rather spectaculary, too.  We make an exception for
symbols that are not reserved (you can build in ISO C mode and define
open, close, etc., at least as long as you link to glibc only).  But
__rseq_offset is a reserved name, so that is not applicable here.

The real change here is GCC changing from -fcommon (which made a lot of
these things work in the past) to -fno-common.

Thanks,
Florian


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-18 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-13 16:29 [patch 00/11] rseq: Optimize exit to user space Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-13 16:29 ` [patch 01/11] rseq: Avoid pointless evaluation in __rseq_notify_resume() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-20 14:23   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-13 16:29 ` [patch 02/11] rseq: Condense the inline stubs Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-20 14:24   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-13 16:29 ` [patch 03/11] rseq: Rename rseq_syscall() to rseq_debug_syscall_exit() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-20 14:25   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-13 16:29 ` [patch 04/11] rseq: Replace the pointless event mask bit fiddling Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-13 16:29 ` [patch 05/11] rseq: Optimize the signal delivery path Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-13 16:29 ` [patch 06/11] rseq: Optimize exit to user space further Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-13 16:29 ` [patch 07/11] entry: Cleanup header Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-13 17:09   ` Giorgi Tchankvetadze
2025-08-13 21:30     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-13 16:29 ` [patch 08/11] entry: Distinguish between syscall and interrupt exit Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-13 16:29 ` [patch 09/11] entry: Provide exit_to_user_notify_resume() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-13 16:29 ` [patch 10/11] rseq: Skip fixup when returning from a syscall Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-14  8:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-14 13:24     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-13 16:29 ` [patch 11/11] rseq: Convert to masked user access where applicable Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-13 17:45 ` [patch 00/11] rseq: Optimize exit to user space Jens Axboe
2025-08-13 21:32   ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-13 21:36     ` Jens Axboe
2025-08-13 22:08       ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-17 21:23         ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-18 14:00           ` BUG: rseq selftests and librseq vs. glibc fail Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-18 14:15             ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2025-08-18 17:13               ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-18 19:33                 ` Florian Weimer
2025-08-18 19:46                   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-18 19:55                     ` Florian Weimer
2025-08-18 20:27                       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-18 23:54                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-19  0:28                           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-19  6:18                             ` Florian Weimer
2025-08-29 18:44                 ` Prakash Sangappa
2025-08-29 18:50                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-01 19:30                     ` Prakash Sangappa
2025-08-18 17:38           ` [patch 00/11] rseq: Optimize exit to user space Michael Jeanson
2025-08-18 20:21             ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-18 21:29               ` Michael Jeanson
2025-08-18 23:43                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-20 14:27           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-20 14:10 ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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