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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>, Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>, Andrey Savochkin <saw@sw.ru>,
	Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>,
	Sam Vilain <sam.vilain@catalyst.net.nz>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm 5/7] add user namespace
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:54:30 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m11wsp1gk9.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1152815491.7650.62.camel@localhost.localdomain> (Dave Hansen's message of "Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:31:31 -0700")

Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com> writes:

> On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 12:21 -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> We need a formula for doing incremental development that will allow us to
>> make headway while not seeing the entire picture all at once.  The scope
>> is just too large.
>
> Definitely.  We need a low-risk development environment where we can put
> test-fit pieces together, but also not worry too much of we have to rip
> pieces out, or completely change them.

It probably makes sense to talk about this up in Ottowa.

> I'm not sure we *need* to rewrite things for review-ability later.  I
> think some of us have gotten pretty good at keeping our development in
> reviewable bits as we go along.

Well the rewrite of the history may simply be an ordering change.

It isn't so much the reviewability of a single piece but the reviewability
of the whole that I am worried about.  I have had one occasion lately
where I made a small simple sane change but I discovered that there
was one little hack I had to get rid of to make everything work.

To remove that hack required me to refactor another piece of code and
was more work than the original change.  That refactoring then had to happen
first, when the code was merged with the rest of the kernel.

So while we should try to keep our pieces as sane as possible we should
assume we have to rewrite history from our sandbox when we push the code
upstream.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-13 19:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-11  7:50 [PATCH -mm 0/7] execns syscall and " Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-11  7:50 ` [PATCH -mm 1/7] add execns syscall core routine Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-11  7:50 ` [PATCH -mm 2/7] add execns syscall to s390 Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-11 13:44   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-07-11 13:44   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-07-11 14:44     ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-11 14:54       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-07-11 15:43         ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-11  7:50 ` [PATCH -mm 3/7] add execns syscall to x86_64 Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-11  7:50 ` [PATCH -mm 4/7] add execns syscall to i386 Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-11  7:50 ` [PATCH -mm 5/7] add user namespace Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-11 16:39   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-07-11 17:38     ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-12 11:21       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-07-13 16:01         ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-12  3:33     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 11:13       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-07-12 18:10         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 17:00           ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-13 18:07             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 18:21             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 18:31               ` Dave Hansen
2006-07-13 18:54                 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2006-07-12  3:46   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 12:05     ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-07-12 17:09       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 14:00     ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-12 17:24       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 17:36         ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-13 17:47           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-07-13 18:14             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 18:29               ` Dave Hansen
2006-07-13 19:02                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 20:03                   ` Dave Hansen
2006-07-14  3:45                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-14 14:28                       ` Dave Hansen
2006-07-14 15:13                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-14 16:29                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-07-14 16:49                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-14 16:55                               ` Dave Hansen
2006-07-14 17:08                                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-07-14 17:19                                   ` Dave Hansen
2006-07-14 17:36                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-14 18:15                                       ` Trond Myklebust
2006-07-14 18:40                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-14 21:04                                           ` Trond Myklebust
2006-07-15  4:09                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-15  4:35                                               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-07-15 12:35                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-15 13:25                                                   ` Kyle Moffett
2006-07-15 15:54                                                   ` Dave Hansen
2006-07-15 17:01                                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2006-07-15 23:29                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-16 16:18                                                       ` Dave Hansen
2006-07-14 17:14                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-16  8:36                                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-07-16 10:08                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-14 17:05                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-07-14 17:50                                 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-07-15 11:33                                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-07-14 17:56                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-14 16:35                           ` Dave Hansen
2006-07-13 21:41                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-07-14  3:52                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-14 14:02                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-07-14 14:50                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-14 16:39                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-07-14 17:18                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-14 17:24                               ` Dave Hansen
2006-07-14 18:06                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-14 18:42                                   ` Dave Hansen
2006-07-14 19:07                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 17:59           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 21:22             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-07-14  3:50               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-14 14:17         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-07-14 15:05           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-14 16:46             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-07-14 16:58               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-14 15:43           ` Kyle Moffett
2006-07-14 16:13             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-11  7:50 ` [PATCH -mm 6/7] add the user namespace to the execns syscall Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-11  7:50 ` [PATCH -mm 7/7] forbid the use of the unshare syscall on ipc namespaces Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-11 14:10   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-07-11 15:06     ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-11  8:02 ` [PATCH -mm 0/7] execns syscall and user namespace Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-11  8:42   ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-11 18:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 18:26   ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-11 18:28     ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 19:50       ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-11 21:50         ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-11 21:57           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12  0:16             ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-12  0:25               ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12  0:28           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 20:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-11 21:28   ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-12  3:24     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 13:05       ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-12 16:56         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 16:13           ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-12 11:11   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-07-12 13:10     ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-15 17:39 [PATCH -mm 5/7] add " Al Boldi
2006-07-16 12:19 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-07-17 11:25   ` Al Boldi

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