From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>,
"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
"linux-ide\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Daniel Taylor <Daniel.Taylor@wdc.com>,
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tytso@mit.edu, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
irtiger@gmail.com, Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
aschnell@suse.de, knikanth@suse.de, jdelvare@suse.de,
Jim Meyering <jim@meyering.net>
Subject: Re: ATA 4 KiB sector issues.
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:09:05 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1mxyi8a3y.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B95B39C.70402@kernel.org> (Tejun Heo's message of "Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:34:04 +0900")
>>>>> "Tejun" == Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> writes:
>>> Huh, what? My homedir is on a 4KiB LBS/PBS drive and has been for
>>> ~2 years.
Tejun> By default, they aren't aligned properly, are they?
Single partition. I did the alignment manually.
Tejun> libata is broken for logical 4KiB ATA devices tho. I'll fix it
Tejun> up.
Matthew implemented support for this a while back...
Tejun> I'm just a bit worried that it might generate a lot of frustrated
Tejun> bug reports. Well, maybe we should just advise users to install
Tejun> windows first and then install Linux.
Unfortunately there is no simple solution given that we can't go back in
time and fix legacy DOS/XP behavior.
The 1-alignment jumper (that some drives have) fixes things for the
first partition but will mess up our alignment for subsequent ones
unless the firmware actually reports the shift. So no matter what we do
the user will have to have a bare minimum of knowledge about 512-byte
LBS/4 KB PBS drives. That sucks. But even Windows users are presented
with extra documentation and alignment utilities during the transition.
Having a 1 MB alignment by default and hoping that devices that lie will
be 0-aligned is the best we can do, I think.
--
Martin K. Petersen Oracle Linux Engineering
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-09 3:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-08 3:48 Tejun Heo
2010-03-08 5:38 ` Greg Freemyer
2010-03-08 7:00 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-08 7:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-08 15:34 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-03-09 22:36 ` Daniel Taylor
2010-03-09 22:46 ` Greg Freemyer
2010-03-10 0:05 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-10 0:14 ` Daniel Taylor
2010-03-10 0:26 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-10 0:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-10 5:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-10 7:09 ` Gabor Gombas
2010-03-10 0:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-10 10:46 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2010-03-10 11:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-08 7:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-08 15:33 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-03-08 15:38 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-03-08 15:41 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-03-08 18:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-08 18:58 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-08 19:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-08 20:02 ` Cláudio Martins
2010-03-08 21:07 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-03-08 20:19 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-03-08 21:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-10 0:34 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-10 7:53 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-03-10 13:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-03-10 16:19 ` Damian Lukowski
2010-03-11 13:04 ` Theodore Tso
2010-03-11 13:57 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2010-03-11 14:28 ` Theodore Tso
2010-03-11 14:39 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-11 15:05 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2010-03-11 15:25 ` tytso
2010-03-11 16:26 ` Gene Heskett
2010-03-11 16:34 ` Greg Freemyer
2010-03-12 1:09 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-11 14:48 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-03-11 15:00 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2010-03-11 15:10 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-11 16:01 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-03-11 18:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-11 16:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-08 15:18 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-03-08 18:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-08 20:01 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-03-08 19:34 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-03-09 2:53 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-09 3:20 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-03-09 6:53 ` Michael Tokarev
2010-03-09 10:01 ` Karel Zak
2010-03-09 10:16 ` Michael Tokarev
2010-03-09 11:15 ` Dave Chinner
2010-03-09 11:38 ` Michael Tokarev
2010-03-09 12:20 ` Dave Chinner
2010-03-09 11:50 ` Karel Zak
2010-03-09 12:18 ` Karel Zak
2010-03-10 5:06 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-03-10 20:50 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-03-10 4:57 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-03-08 19:58 ` Karel Zak
2010-03-09 2:34 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-09 2:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-03-09 2:49 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-09 2:42 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-09 3:11 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-03-09 3:09 ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2010-03-09 3:38 ` Daniel Taylor
2010-03-09 4:54 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-03-09 7:27 ` Jim Meyering
2010-03-09 23:56 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-08 20:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-09 2:22 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-09 2:44 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-09 3:18 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-03-09 14:32 ` Mark Lord
2010-03-09 6:34 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2010-03-09 10:06 ` Michal Soltys
2010-03-10 0:11 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-14 21:09 ` Michal Soltys
2010-03-14 22:56 ` s ponnusa
2010-03-09 13:55 ` Mark Lord
2010-03-10 0:00 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-10 6:08 ` Mark Lord
2010-03-09 23:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-03-10 0:20 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-10 9:14 ` Denys Vlasenko
2010-03-15 1:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-15 2:26 ` Denys Vlasenko
2010-03-15 2:56 ` Greg Freemyer
2010-03-15 4:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-15 12:30 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-03-15 5:20 ` david
2010-03-15 9:56 ` Denys Vlasenko
2010-03-15 14:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-16 2:30 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-16 2:32 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-16 6:14 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-16 6:22 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-16 13:24 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-16 13:56 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-16 14:21 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-16 14:25 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-03-16 14:50 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-16 15:02 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-16 15:20 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-16 15:22 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-03-17 2:07 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-16 15:23 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-16 15:37 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-16 20:42 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-03-17 2:04 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-17 2:51 ` Kevin Easton
2010-03-17 3:44 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-17 8:01 ` jdow
2010-03-17 17:04 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-03-16 14:38 ` Denys Vlasenko
2010-03-16 15:12 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-16 15:25 ` Denys Vlasenko
2010-03-16 15:47 ` Tejun Heo
2010-03-17 6:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-16 6:27 ` Thomas Chou
2010-03-12 3:10 H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-16 22:21 H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-17 15:08 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-03-17 17:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
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