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From: "Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	linux-mips@linux-mips.org, Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	WireGuard mailing list <wireguard@lists.zx2c4.com>
Subject: Re: Misalignment, MIPS, and ip_hdr(skb)->version
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 10:47:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yw1xtwaawxm8.fsf@unicorn.mansr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161211080718.GA7253@1wt.eu> (Willy Tarreau's message of "Sun, 11 Dec 2016 09:07:18 +0100")

Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu> writes:

> Hi Jason,
>
> On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 11:20:04PM +0100, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
>> > You really have to land the IP header on a proper 4 byte boundary.
>> >
>> > I would suggest pushing 3 dummy garbage bytes of padding at the front
>> > or the end of your header.
>> 
>> Are you sure 3 bytes to get 4 byte alignment is really the best?
>
> It's always the best. However there's another option which should be
> considered : maybe it's difficult but not impossible to move some bits
> from the current protocol to remove one byte. That's not always easy,
> and sometimes you cannot do it just for one bit. However after you run
> through this exercise, if you notice there's really no way to shave
> this extra byte, you'll realize there's no room left for future
> extensions and you'll more easily accept to add 3 empty bytes for
> this, typically protocol version, tags, qos or flagss that you'll be
> happy to rely on for future versions of your protocol.

Always include some way of extending the protocol in the future.  A
single bit is often enough.  Require a value of zero initially, then if
you ever want to change anything, setting it to one can indicate
whatever you want, including a complete redesign of the header.
Alternatively, a one-bit field can indicate the presence of an extended
header yet to be defined.  Then old software can still make sense of the
basic header.

-- 
Måns Rullgård

  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-11 10:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-07 18:35 Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-07 18:47 ` Dave Taht
2016-12-07 18:51   ` David Miller
2016-12-07 18:54     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-07 19:52       ` David Miller
2016-12-08  0:29         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-08  0:37           ` David Miller
2016-12-08 22:20             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-08 23:14               ` David Miller
2016-12-11  8:07               ` Willy Tarreau
2016-12-11 10:47                 ` Måns Rullgård [this message]
2016-12-10 12:25       ` Felix Fietkau
2016-12-10 13:25         ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-10 20:09           ` Felix Fietkau
2016-12-10 20:32             ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-10 20:36               ` Felix Fietkau
2016-12-12 16:19           ` David Laight
2016-12-12 16:31             ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08  0:30 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-08  4:34   ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2016-12-09 11:26     ` Jiri Benc
2016-12-10 22:18     ` Dan Lüdtke
2016-12-11  7:15       ` Greg KH
2016-12-11 14:50         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-11 15:30           ` Andrew Lunn
2016-12-11 15:37             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-11 16:44           ` Willy Tarreau

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