From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
vschneid@redhat.com, kprateek.nayak@amd.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ziqianlu@bytedance.com,
Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 04/12] sched/core: Make __update_rq_clock() skip updates on UPDATED
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2026 07:08:53 -1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0129fb236b7c82b5a5200f476455a46b@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261111122524.GC2669272@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Hello, Peter.
(cc'ing Changwoo)
On Wed, Nov 11, 2026 at 01:25:24PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> Notably, I want dequeue and pick / set-next to have the same timestamp
> such that the whole of schedule appears to happen at one instant in
> time.
>
> For ext you've explicitly chosen to not do so, per the placement of
> scx_rq_clock_invalidate().
IIRC, that wasn't to get a fresh clock after each lock drop. The goals
were:
1. Use the cached rq clock to avoid reading the hardware clock in most
cases.
2. Avoid reading a really stale clock after the scheduling session is
long over.
The invalidation is there for the second. With the existing code, the
cached clock can stay around long after the session is finished.
If the core tracks the session and whether the clock is up to date as
suggested in the reply to the cover letter, scx doesn't need its own
valid flag and can do what the other users do. With the rq locked and
pinned, update the clock if needed and use it. Without the lock, use it
if in session and up to date. Otherwise, read the hardware clock.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-11 17:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-07 11:59 [PATCH v2 00/12] sched: core-sched fixes and balancing Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] sched/core: Fix pick_next_task() self recursion Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 0:30 ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-11 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] sched/core: Introduce rq_drop_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-08 9:25 ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-11 10:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] sched/core: Decompose update_rq_clock() Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] sched/core: Make __update_rq_clock() skip updates on UPDATED Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 1:11 ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-11 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 12:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 17:08 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] sched/core: Abstract/fix rq_clock_start_loop_update() Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-08 22:26 ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-11 9:10 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-11-11 9:51 ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-11 16:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] sched/core: New rq_{pin,drop,repin,unpin}_lock() semantics Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 10:41 ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] sched/core: Simplify/fix time updates Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] sched/core: Allow newidle for core-sched Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] sched/rt: Add early exit on balance path Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] sched/fair: Reflow pick_task_fair() / newidle Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 11:02 ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-11 12:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] sched/fair: Push sched_balance_newidle() unlock down Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] sched: Remove sched_class::balance() Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 11:18 ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-11 13:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 13:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 14:57 ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-11 15:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 16:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 11:46 ` [PATCH v2 00/12] sched: core-sched fixes and balancing Tejun Heo
2026-11-11 13:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
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