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From: "Dan Maas" <dmaas@dcine.com>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "Benjamin Herrenschmidt" <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	"Ben Collins" <bcollins@debian.org>
Subject: readl/writel and memory barriers
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 20:45:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <092401c1b8e7$1d190660$1a01a8c0@allyourbase> (raw)

Are the PCI memory access functions like readl() and writel() supposed to
enforce ordering without explicit memory barriers?

I've heard inconsistent reports - Benjamin Herrenschmidt pointed out that on
PPC, the definitions of readl() and writel() include memory barriers. But
the code example on page 229 of Rubini and Corbet's "Linux Device Drivers"
2nd ed. suggests that an explicit wmb() is needed to preserve ordering of
writel()s.

In a quick survey of architectures that need explicit memory barriers to
enforce ordering of PCI accesses, it seems that alpha and PPC include memory
barriers inside readl() and writel(), whereas MIPS, sparc64, ia64, and s390
do not include them. (I'm not intimately familiar with these architectures
so forgive me if I got some wrong...). What is the official story here?

Regards,
Dan


             reply	other threads:[~2002-02-19  1:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-19  1:45 Dan Maas [this message]
2002-02-19  9:31 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-19 17:10 ` David Mosberger
2002-02-19 18:35   ` Jesse Barnes
2002-02-19 20:11     ` Dan Maas
2002-02-19 20:23       ` Jesse Barnes
2002-02-19 22:05     ` Keith Owens
2002-02-19 22:17       ` Jesse Barnes
2002-02-21  0:29       ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-23  4:48         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-25 16:19           ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-19 19:33   ` David Mosberger
2002-02-19 19:42     ` Jesse Barnes

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