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From: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
To: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@sgi.com>
Cc: David Mosberger <davidm@hpl.hp.com>, Dan Maas <dmaas@dcine.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Ben Collins <bcollins@debian.org>
Subject: Re: readl/writel and memory barriers
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:05:37 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <13997.1014156337@ocs3.intra.ocs.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:35:06 -0800." <20020219103506.A1511175@sgi.com>

On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:35:06 -0800, 
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@sgi.com> wrote:
>Making a variable volatile doesn't guarantee that the compiler won't
>reorder references to it, AFAIK.  And on some platforms, even uncached
>I/O references aren't necessarily ordered.

Ignoring the issue of hardware that reorders I/O, volatile accesses
must not be reordered by the compiler.  From a C9X draft (1999, anybody
have the current C standard online?) :-

  5.1.2.3 [#2]

  Accessing  a volatile object, modifying an object, modifying a file,
  or calling a function that does any of those operations are all side
  effects which are changes in the state of the execution environment.
  Evaluation of an expression may produce side effects.  At certain
  specified points in the execution sequence called sequence points,
  all side effects of previous evaluations shall be complete and no
  side effects of subsequent evaluations shall have taken place.

  5.1.2.3 [#6]

  The least requirements on a conforming implementation are:

    -- At sequence points, volatile objects are stable in the sense
       that previous accesses are complete and subsequent accesses have
       not yet occurred.

The compiler may not reorder volatile accesses across sequence points.

volatile int *a, *b;
int c;

c = *a + *b;	// no sequence point, access order to a, b is undefined

c = *a;		// compiler must not convert to the above format, it
c += *b;	// must access a then b



  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-02-19 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-19  1:45 Dan Maas
2002-02-19  9:31 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-19 17:10 ` David Mosberger
2002-02-19 18:35   ` Jesse Barnes
2002-02-19 20:11     ` Dan Maas
2002-02-19 20:23       ` Jesse Barnes
2002-02-19 22:05     ` Keith Owens [this message]
2002-02-19 22:17       ` Jesse Barnes
2002-02-21  0:29       ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-23  4:48         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-25 16:19           ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-19 19:33   ` David Mosberger
2002-02-19 19:42     ` Jesse Barnes

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