From: "Gilles Espinasse" <g.esp@free.fr>
To: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>, "Willy Tarreau" <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: "Marcus Meissner" <meissner@suse.de>, <security@kernel.org>,
<mort@sgi.com>, "Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
<fweisbec@gmail.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <jason.wessel@windriver.com>,
<tj@kernel.org>, <Andrew@zimbra8-e1.priv.proxad.net>,
<"Morton <"@zimbra8-e1.priv.proxad.net>
Subject: Re: [Security] [PATCH] kernel: make /proc/kallsyms mode 400 to reduce ease of attacking
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 14:06:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <105301cb8333$87a9bd10$f9b5a8c0@pii350> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101104215157.GA25128@ <20101107090805.GA27983@elte.hu>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "Willy Tarreau" <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: "Marcus Meissner" <meissner@suse.de>; <security@kernel.org>;
<mort@sgi.com>; "Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>;
<fweisbec@gmail.com>; "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>;
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>; <jason.wessel@windriver.com>;
<tj@kernel.org>; <Andrew@zimbra8-e1.priv.proxad.net>; <"Morton
<"@zimbra8-e1.priv.proxad.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Security] [PATCH] kernel: make /proc/kallsyms mode 400 to
reduce ease of attacking
>
> * Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
> > If your claim that 'kernel version is needed at many places' is true
then why am i
> > seeing this on a pretty general distro box bootup:
> >
> > [root@aldebaran ~]# uname -a
> > Linux aldebaran 2.6.99-tip-01574-g6ba54c9-dirty #1 SMP Sun Nov 7
10:24:38 CET 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Yes, some user-space might be unhappy if we set the version _back_ to
say 2.4.0,
> > but we could (as the patch below) fuzz up the version information from
> > unprivileged attackers easily.
>
> Btw., with an 'exploit honeypot' and 'version fuzzing' the uname output
would look
> like this to an unprivileged user:
>
> $ uname -a
> Linux aldebaran 2.6.99 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> [ we wouldnt want to include the date or the SHA1 of the kernel,
obviously. ]
>
> And it would look like this to root:
>
> # uname -a
> Linux aldebaran 2.6.37-tip-01574-g6ba54c9-dirty #1 SMP Sun Nov 7
10:24:38 CET 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> Ingo
A bit late comment
gesp@a7n8x-e:~$ strings /lib/modules/*/kernel/drivers/scsi/in2000.ko | grep
2010
Sep 16 2010
gesp@a7n8x-e:~$ strings /lib/modules/*/kernel/drivers/char/nozomi.ko | grep
2010
Nozomi driver 2.1d (build date: Sep 16 2010 19:01:27)
gesp@a7n8x-e:~$ uname -a
Linux a7n8x-e 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Thu Sep 16 19:35:51 UTC 2010 i686
GNU/Linux
Should it not be considered before to remove __DATE__ and __TIME__ from
module code?
That would have too the good effect that everyone that compile same code
with same compiler get exactly same file.
Gilles
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-13 13:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-04 10:09 Marcus Meissner
2010-11-04 10:11 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-05 0:11 ` [Security] " Eugene Teo
2010-11-04 11:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-04 12:29 ` Marcus Meissner
2010-11-04 13:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-04 14:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-04 14:33 ` Marcus Meissner
2010-11-04 14:38 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-04 14:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-11-04 14:48 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-04 19:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-04 21:29 ` [Security] " Willy Tarreau
2010-11-04 21:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-04 22:35 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-11-04 23:46 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-11-07 8:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-07 9:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-07 9:49 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-11-07 11:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-07 11:41 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-11-07 11:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-07 11:56 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-11-07 12:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-07 12:22 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-11-07 12:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-07 12:39 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-11-07 12:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-07 12:51 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-11-07 15:27 ` Alan Cox
2010-11-08 6:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-07 11:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-07 11:51 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-11-07 12:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-07 12:55 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-11-07 8:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-07 9:03 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20101104215157.GA25128@ <20101107090805.GA27983@elte.hu>
2010-11-13 13:06 ` Gilles Espinasse [this message]
2010-11-07 18:02 ` Andi Kleen
2010-11-07 18:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-11-10 8:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-11 2:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-11-11 7:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-05 2:38 ` Frank Rowand
2010-11-10 20:58 ` Jesper Juhl
2010-11-05 0:20 ` Jesper Juhl
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