From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Eduardo Pereira Habkost <ehabkost@mandriva.com>,
Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
Luiz Fernando Capitulino <lcapitulino@mandriva.com.br>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: [PATCH 00/10] usb-serial: Switches from spin lock to atomic_t.
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:22:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1133968943.2869.26.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0512071000120.21143-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
> On the other hand, Oliver needs to be careful about claiming too much. In
> general atomic_t operations _are_ superior to the spinlock approach.
No they're not. Both are just about equally expensive cpu wise,
sometimes the atomic_t ones are a bit more expensive (like on parisc
architecture). But on x86 in either case it's a locked cycle, which is
just expensive no matter which side you flip the coin...
> If
> they weren't, atomic_t wouldn't belong in the kernel at all.
there's different usage patterns where either makes sense.
In this case it looks just disgusting on very first sight; the atomic
are used to implement a lock, and that lock itself is then implemented
with a spinlock again. For me, again on first sight, the real solution
appears to be to use a linux primitive for the higher level lock in the
first place, instead of reimplementing <your own thing> with <another
own thing>.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-07 15:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-06 11:56 Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-06 19:40 ` Greg KH
2005-12-06 20:13 ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-06 22:48 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 12:24 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 12:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 12:30 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 12:34 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 12:41 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 12:54 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 15:07 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-07 15:22 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2005-12-07 15:37 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 15:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 15:50 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 16:02 ` Alan Cox
2005-12-07 16:00 ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-07 16:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 16:23 ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-07 16:01 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-07 16:04 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 15:32 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-12-07 16:08 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-06 20:14 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-06 21:02 ` Pete Zaitcev
2005-12-06 21:18 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-06 22:36 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 12:25 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 13:01 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 13:17 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 16:41 ` Greg KH
2005-12-07 16:51 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 17:13 ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-07 17:56 ` Greg KH
2005-12-07 19:10 ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-07 16:55 ` Otavio Salvador
2005-12-07 16:59 ` Greg KH
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