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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Eduardo Pereira Habkost <ehabkost@mandriva.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Luiz Fernando Capitulino <lcapitulino@mandriva.com.br>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: [PATCH 00/10] usb-serial: Switches from spin lock to atomic_t.
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:22:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1133968943.2869.26.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0512071000120.21143-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>


> On the other hand, Oliver needs to be careful about claiming too much.  In 
> general atomic_t operations _are_ superior to the spinlock approach.

No they're not. Both are just about equally expensive cpu wise,
sometimes the atomic_t ones are a bit more expensive (like on parisc
architecture). But on x86 in either case it's a locked cycle, which is
just expensive no matter which side you flip the coin... 

>   If 
> they weren't, atomic_t wouldn't belong in the kernel at all.

there's different usage patterns where either makes sense. 
In this case it looks just disgusting on very first sight; the atomic
are used to implement a lock, and that lock itself is then implemented
with a spinlock again. For me, again on first sight, the real solution
appears to be to use a linux primitive for the higher level lock in the
first place, instead of reimplementing <your own thing> with <another
own thing>.




  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-07 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-06 11:56 Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-06 19:40 ` Greg KH
2005-12-06 20:13   ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-06 22:48     ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 12:24       ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 12:27         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 12:30           ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 12:34             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 12:41               ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 12:54                 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 15:07       ` Alan Stern
2005-12-07 15:22         ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2005-12-07 15:37           ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 15:40             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 15:50               ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 16:02                 ` Alan Cox
2005-12-07 16:00           ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-07 16:02             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 16:23               ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-07 16:01           ` Alan Stern
2005-12-07 16:04             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 15:32         ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-12-07 16:08           ` Alan Stern
2005-12-06 20:14   ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-06 21:02     ` Pete Zaitcev
2005-12-06 21:18       ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-06 22:36         ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 12:25           ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 13:01             ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 13:17               ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 16:41 ` Greg KH
2005-12-07 16:51   ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 17:13     ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-07 17:56       ` Greg KH
2005-12-07 19:10         ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-07 16:55   ` Otavio Salvador
2005-12-07 16:59     ` Greg KH

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