From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Eduardo Pereira Habkost <ehabkost@mandriva.com>,
Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
Luiz Fernando Capitulino <lcapitulino@mandriva.com.br>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: [PATCH 00/10] usb-serial: Switches from spin lock to atomic_t.
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 17:04:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1133971457.2869.43.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0512071059420.21143-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 11:01 -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>
> > > On the other hand, Oliver needs to be careful about claiming too much. In
> > > general atomic_t operations _are_ superior to the spinlock approach.
> >
> > No they're not. Both are just about equally expensive cpu wise,
> > sometimes the atomic_t ones are a bit more expensive (like on parisc
> > architecture). But on x86 in either case it's a locked cycle, which is
> > just expensive no matter which side you flip the coin...
>
> You're overgeneralizing.
to some degree yes.
>
> Sure, a locked cycle has a certain expense. But it's a lot less than the
> expense of a contested spinlock.
the chances that *this* spinlock ends up being contested are near zero,
and.. in that scenario a locked cycle does the same thing, just in
hardware..... (eg the other cpu will busy wait until this locked cycle
is done)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-07 16:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-06 11:56 Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-06 19:40 ` Greg KH
2005-12-06 20:13 ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-06 22:48 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 12:24 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 12:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 12:30 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 12:34 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 12:41 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 12:54 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 15:07 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-07 15:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 15:37 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 15:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 15:50 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 16:02 ` Alan Cox
2005-12-07 16:00 ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-07 16:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 16:23 ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-07 16:01 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-07 16:04 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2005-12-07 15:32 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-12-07 16:08 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-06 20:14 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-06 21:02 ` Pete Zaitcev
2005-12-06 21:18 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-06 22:36 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 12:25 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 13:01 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 13:17 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 16:41 ` Greg KH
2005-12-07 16:51 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 17:13 ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-07 17:56 ` Greg KH
2005-12-07 19:10 ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-07 16:55 ` Otavio Salvador
2005-12-07 16:59 ` Greg KH
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