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From: Eduardo Pereira Habkost <ehabkost@mandriva.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Luiz Fernando Capitulino <lcapitulino@mandriva.com.br>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: [PATCH 00/10] usb-serial: Switches from spin lock to atomic_t.
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:23:11 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051207162311.GH20451@duckman.conectiva> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1133971353.2869.41.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>

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On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 05:02:33PM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> 
> > > No they're not. Both are just about equally expensive cpu wise,
> > > sometimes the atomic_t ones are a bit more expensive (like on parisc
> > > architecture). But on x86 in either case it's a locked cycle, which is
> > > just expensive no matter which side you flip the coin... 
> > 
> > But if a lock is used exclusively to protect a int variable, an atomic_t
> > seems to be more appropriate to me. Isn't it?
> 
> sounds like it... 
> 
> > Please, if you could, review the patches with this in mind: we aren't
> > changing any behaviour neither creating any weird lock scheme, we are
> > only doing two things:
> 
> ... however you are NOT changing the behavior, which is EXACTLY my
> point; the current "lock emulation" behavior is wrong, all you're doing
> is replacing how you do the wrong thing ;)

But now doing the Right Thing will be easy, as the wrong code isn't
duplicated all around anymore: it is only in one place.  ;)

We have just done a small refactoring, trying to keep behaviour.
I haven't analysed deeply the current code to check if the "lock
emulation" could be replaced by a better approach. But at a first look,
it didn't look wrong to me. I am open to suggestions on how to replace
the write_urb_busy checking by something better.

So, at least we agree that using atomic_t is better than the current
approach, right? So, do you agree that, _if_ we chose to keep the
write_urb_busy "pseudo-locking", we could at least remove the code
duplication for that and use an atomic_t instead of spin_lock+int?

> 
> It's like having a bike with square wheels, and replacing a flat tire
> with one with air in, as opposed to replacing it with a round wheel...
> 

I am open to suggestions on how to build a round wheel in this case.  :)

-- 
Eduardo

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-07 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-06 11:56 Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-06 19:40 ` Greg KH
2005-12-06 20:13   ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-06 22:48     ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 12:24       ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 12:27         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 12:30           ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 12:34             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 12:41               ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 12:54                 ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 15:07       ` Alan Stern
2005-12-07 15:22         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 15:37           ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 15:40             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 15:50               ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 16:02                 ` Alan Cox
2005-12-07 16:00           ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-07 16:02             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 16:23               ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost [this message]
2005-12-07 16:01           ` Alan Stern
2005-12-07 16:04             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 15:32         ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-12-07 16:08           ` Alan Stern
2005-12-06 20:14   ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-06 21:02     ` Pete Zaitcev
2005-12-06 21:18       ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-06 22:36         ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 12:25           ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 13:01             ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-07 13:17               ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 16:41 ` Greg KH
2005-12-07 16:51   ` Luiz Fernando Capitulino
2005-12-07 17:13     ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-07 17:56       ` Greg KH
2005-12-07 19:10         ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2005-12-07 16:55   ` Otavio Salvador
2005-12-07 16:59     ` Greg KH

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