From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
To: Hua Zhong <hzhong@gmail.com>
Cc: "'Linux Kernel Mailing List'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"'Linus Torvalds'" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:31:22 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1188534682.6626.70.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <001601c7eb5f$b6146980$223d3c80$@com>
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 16:44 -0700, Hua Zhong wrote:
> > How is the NFS client to know that these directories are disjoint, or
> > that no-one will ever create a hard link from one directory to another?
> > To my knowledge, the only way to ensure this is to put them on
> > different disk partitions.
> >
> > I don't know if all Unix systems have this issue, but I have been told
> > that Solaris at least has it.
>
> Does Solaris enforces this "mount with same options" as default?
No. Solaris defaults to breaking cache consistency.
> > > "working" as in "I can mount the directory and do my work". And there
> > > has never been any problems as far as I know.
> >
> > That is too narrow a definition: the minimum should be "everyone can
> > mount their directories and do their work". Your particular setup may
> > be safe, but that is why we have overrides: the default should be for the
> > kernel to be conservative, and to _tell_ users what it thinks is wrong.
>
> Every engineer in our organization mounts it too. No problem until now.
I believe I've already explained why that isn't a sufficient metric.
What is your point?
> It's not very conservative to suddenly change default behavior and break
> autofs mounts. There is not even one kernel message that "_tells_ user why
> it thinks it's wrong". It just silently fails.
No it doesn't. It reports an error code to the caller. If autofs is
failing silently, then that is a bug in autofs: mount will report the
error to the user.
Trond
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-31 4:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-30 21:07 Hua Zhong
2007-08-30 22:37 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-30 22:47 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-30 23:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-30 23:30 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-30 23:37 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-30 23:44 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 4:31 ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2007-08-31 4:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 4:47 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 4:57 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 5:09 ` Ian Kent
2007-08-31 7:50 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2007-08-31 1:24 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-31 4:33 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 3:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 3:57 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 4:44 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 4:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 5:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 5:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 7:40 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2007-08-31 8:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 8:51 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2007-08-31 16:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-03 13:20 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2007-09-03 13:43 ` Martin Knoblauch
2007-08-31 12:11 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 13:12 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-08-31 13:50 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 14:42 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-09-04 7:51 ` David Howells
2007-08-31 8:28 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-08-31 5:24 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 5:38 ` Ian Kent
2007-08-31 8:54 ` Martin Knoblauch
2007-08-31 16:21 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 17:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 19:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 18:47 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 19:13 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 19:35 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 19:41 ` Hua Zhong
2007-09-02 0:58 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-09-04 7:54 ` David Howells
2007-09-05 12:35 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-09-05 12:44 ` Ian Kent
2007-09-05 16:26 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-05 15:34 ` David Howells
2007-09-05 15:37 ` David Howells
2007-09-05 15:50 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-06 5:23 ` Ian Kent
2007-09-04 8:02 ` David Howells
2007-09-04 8:35 ` David Howells
2007-09-04 9:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 8:14 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-08-31 9:05 ` Ian Kent
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