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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Hua Zhong <hzhong@gmail.com>,
	"'Linux Kernel Mailing List'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'Linus Torvalds'" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:24:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070830182435.e921ea44.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1188513433.6626.24.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:37:13 -0400 Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> wrote:

> On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 14:07 -0700, Hua Zhong wrote:
> > I am re-sending this after help from Ian and git-bisect. To me it's a
> > show-stopper: I cannot find an acceptable workaround that I can implement.
> > 
> > The problem: upgrading to 2.6.23-rc4 from 2.6.22 causes several autofs
> > mounts to fail silently - they just not appear when they should.
> > 
> > I believe it's caused by the NFS change that forces multiple mounts from
> > different directories under the same server side filesystem to have the same
> > mount options by default, otherwise it returns EBUSY.
> > 
> > For example, if server has a filesystem /a, and it exports /a/x and /a/y
> > (maybe with rw or ro), and a client must mount /a/x and /a/y with the same
> > mount options now.
> 
> Which is better than having it fail silently, or giving you a mount with
> the wrong mount options.
> 
> If you need to mount the same filesystem with incompatible mount options
> on the same client, then there is a new mount option "nosharecache",
> which enables it.
> The new option is there in order to make it damned clear to sysadmins
> that this is a dangerous thing to do: mounts which don't share the same
> superblock also don't share the same data and attribute caches. Any file
> or directory which appears in both mounts had better only be used by one
> application at a time or be using an appropriate locking scheme.
> 

If we're going to send a message to sysadmins, we shouldn't force them to go
through a git bisection search and a lkml discussion to receive it!

Is there at least some way in which the kernel can detect this situation
and emit a friendly printk which guides people to a friendly document?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-31  1:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-30 21:07 Hua Zhong
2007-08-30 22:37 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-30 22:47   ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-30 23:22     ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-30 23:30       ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-30 23:37         ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-30 23:44           ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31  4:31             ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31  4:38               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31  4:47                 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31  4:57                 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31  5:09               ` Ian Kent
2007-08-31  7:50               ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2007-08-31  1:24   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-08-31  4:33     ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31  3:49   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31  3:57     ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31  4:44     ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31  4:59       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31  5:04         ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31  5:16           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31  7:40             ` Jakob Oestergaard
2007-08-31  8:07               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31  8:51                 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2007-08-31 16:43                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-03 13:20                     ` Jakob Oestergaard
2007-09-03 13:43                       ` Martin Knoblauch
2007-08-31 12:11                 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 13:12                   ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-08-31 13:50                     ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 14:42                       ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-09-04  7:51                 ` David Howells
2007-08-31  8:28               ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-08-31  5:24           ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31  5:38         ` Ian Kent
2007-08-31  8:54           ` Martin Knoblauch
2007-08-31 16:21     ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 17:01       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 19:03         ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 18:47       ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 19:13         ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 19:35           ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 19:41           ` Hua Zhong
2007-09-02  0:58       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-09-04  7:54       ` David Howells
2007-09-05 12:35         ` Bill Davidsen
2007-09-05 12:44         ` Ian Kent
2007-09-05 16:26           ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-05 15:34         ` David Howells
2007-09-05 15:37         ` David Howells
2007-09-05 15:50           ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-06  5:23             ` Ian Kent
2007-09-04  8:02       ` David Howells
2007-09-04  8:35       ` David Howells
2007-09-04  9:04         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31  8:14 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-08-31  9:05   ` Ian Kent

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